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Old 10-12-2021, 02:47 PM
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Default New Furch Crossover Nylon String

It's not a new guitar day, but I have a new Furch Crossover. I received it back in July so I've had time to play and see how I will bond with it.

I started out with some clear ideas what I wanted:

1. narrower neck. I had an Applegate crossover which was a beautiful guitar and sounded great but at 50mm I could never adjust to the neck. I wanted a max of 48mm.
2. a cutaway. You can argue the pros and cons, but it is what I wanted.
3. a radius fretboard.
4. if it had a pickup, no barn door.

I was looking very hard at the Kenny Hill New World. It checked all the boxes, although I had seen people say it was basically the same as Cordobas that were made in the same factory.

Then I saw that Furch made a crossover. With all the positive reviews I've seen of Furch in general, I started to do some research on it. There were a couple of things about it, it's bracing pattern is more like a steel string and it's nut size is 1 3/4.

That nut size caused me concern. Was it too narrow. I started asking about that and I got a lot of responses that it would be really narrow. I talked to both Heartbreaker Guitars and Fretted Buffalo about it, they said they saw no problems with the nut width.

Bill told me he could get me one with a sinker redwood top. Again a personal choice but I am a fool for redwood so while it was a significant premium in price I went ahead and ordered it. Bill and I had talked about whether I could return it if I didn't like it.

So the guitar came in. The build quality is very good. I've read people compare the Furch to Taylor on build quality. I'd say that is very accurate. I can't find any issues. The redwood top is great, the rosewood is dark, straight grained, very nice. It has tortise binding, given the choice I would have selected bloodwood but nothing wrong with the tortoise. The neck is satin and feels great. As far as the build, there is nothing to complain about.

The sound is good. It was a little thin, at first. It seems like every time I play it it settles in deeper and more resonate. I knew at the end of the first week that I liked what I heard. I'm not going to tell you that it is the best sound ever, just that I like the sound.

It came with the Baggs EAS-VTC pickup system. That is not the pickup I would have chosen but it sounds fine the couple of times I've plugged it it. I suppose if I decide there is a problem I can always replace it. No desire to do that at the moment.

OK, my thoughts on the 1 3/4 nut width. The problem I had with the 50mm width was that going back and forth between my steel string and nylon string was a problem. Maybe I have a spastic little finger on my left (fretting) hand but I could never consistently fret the E & B strings on the 3rd fret. I'd miss the string.

I have no issues with this guitar. I am able to fret cleanly. I don't have any issue with string buzz. It works just fine for me. I know this something that will be specific with each player. I also know that I am not a trained classical player so that also maybe part of why it works for me.

End of story, I got a guitar that is beautiful, that sounds great and I like to play. I'd say I checked all the boxes.

Jack
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Old 10-12-2021, 03:02 PM
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Furch are amazing and Iím considering a hybrid nylon for when I can afford it - itís at the top of my list of options!

Thanks for sharing your experiences!
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What?! No photos?
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Old 10-12-2021, 05:25 PM
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Congratulations Jayhawk!

Can you explain what the process was? For example, do you go with one of their GNc models and then get to make some modifications?

Or can you start from scratch and give them dimensions for things like body size, scale length, and nut size?

Thanks so much!
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Old 10-12-2021, 07:58 PM
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Mike

It really wasnít much of a process. I was going going to get the Gnc4-CR. When I talked to Bill at Fretted Buffalo he told me there was one coming in with the Sinker Redwood. I asked him how much it would be. I swallowed hard when he told me but after I thought about it for a while and told him I would take it. I love redwood. I already have a custom Taylor GA with Sinker Redwood and Walnut that I love so getting this one was an easy decision. My only concern was whether the nylon strings could generate enough energy for the redwood. Doesnít seem to be a problem.

Iíll post some pictures, soon. I used to use photo bucket and I need to get a new cloud repository.

Jack
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Old 10-13-2021, 12:40 AM
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Mike

It really wasnít much of a process. I was going going to get the Gnc4-CR. When I talked to Bill at Fretted Buffalo he told me there was one coming in with the Sinker Redwood. I asked him how much it would be. I swallowed hard when he told me but after I thought about it for a while and told him I would take it. I love redwood. I already have a custom Taylor GA with Sinker Redwood and Walnut that I love so getting this one was an easy decision. My only concern was whether the nylon strings could generate enough energy for the redwood. Doesnít seem to be a problem.

Iíll post some pictures, soon. I used to use photo bucket and I need to get a new cloud repository.

Jack

If you use the Tapatalk app you can post direct from there.
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Old 10-13-2021, 03:32 PM
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Thanks. Didn't know that.

Jack
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2011 Eastman AC508M
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