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This has only happened to me once, and I didn't know what was going on. I assumed the woman that paid for my coffee saw me in her rear view mirror and thought I was cute. When I told my wife about it she clued me in to what was really going on.
I tend to agree with the OP. This seems kind of a shallow and more of a quick "good job by me" gesture. Of course I understand that these same people may be also giving to those that need too, so random acts of kindness are not bad. But I wouldn't participate either.
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I am with the OP completely here.
It is great to do things for others, but buying a luxury item (donuts) for well enough off people that they can drive nice cars through a DD drive through really does nothing. In fact I would be upset if someone did that for me, not grateful. I would also argue that the first person who paid for the donuts is imposing something on the others behind them for the sake of their own ego. There are many ways to give back or be supportive of others. I thing the donut line thing is not a good one. |
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I find the interesting part is the peer pressure that is being used both at DD and here on the forum.
I was taught that when someone does something for you that you owe them. It made me give a lot of thought as to why people do things. Things like self-gratification and manipulation to start. You are either with us or against us.
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^^^^AGREE^^^^ Why does there have to be a motivation behind it other than an act of kindness? Assuming that there is, denigrates the act. If someone is automatically suspicious of someone’s intentions and tries to make it about that person trying to make themselves look or feel better, I’m sorry you feel that way. There have been many times I’ve walked into a store or restaurant, in uniform and go to pay and be told that I’ve been taken care of. Folks, that makes my day! I don’t look for a nefarious purpose behind it, I accept it as kindness and go on about my day.
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You’d be surprised at the amount of people that DON’T have a lot of money, who are the most giving! You’re automatically assuming that this is wealthy people trying to make themselves feel better and pressure you into doing the same. What’s if it’s just an average Joe who wants to be nice? This, “self-gratification” ideology discredits kind and nice people. I can promise you that in 28 years of law enforcement and going to war twice, I’ve seen the worst that mankind is possible of and that can easily make a person suspicious of ANY and EVERY thing you see, but we can’t live our lives that way. Just accept that there are loving, kind and selfless people out there who do things for others WITHOUT a motive other than being loving and kind.
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As long as there are not some nefarious strings attached , I agree.. Because not only is that their personal problem/issue to live with,,,, But a self aggrandizement motive is functionally irrelevant, if there is actual benefit to those receiving the gift.
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The donut drive through example also carries an implied expectation from you, kind rooted in guilt. So it isn't just about judging the motives of others.
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I've seen that, and it's a by product of the social media lemmings following the example of their idols online. What you guys are seeing is the modern day version of charity. It's false and self serving and does nothing but expand waistlines IMO.
What really needs to happen is people need to take that money and buy socks and toiletries and take them down to the homeless shelter. Now that is true "paying it forward."
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I was a typical small cog on very large corporate machine. This particular corporate machine awarded workers who donated to through the proper networks (defined by the corporation). Workers who did not donate the recommended amount were punished by various means - mostly lack of promotion and lack of pay raises. The corporate-selected charities sometimes had problems like mismanagement of funds or midirection of funds or theft of donated funds. I can (and do) decide who the "proper networks" are, and yours might not match mine. I generally skip the "networks" altogether and donate or volunteer locally or personally. Interestying how this thread has turned into a philosophic dicussion. |