You get what you pay for..DONT BELIEVE IT.

[Athana]

Oh I definitely don't blame Fender..the guy who made the things (I ordered 2 at the same time slightly different) really delivered real handmade guitars.
Im not sure exactly who/what Im blaming actually : (

[CyberFerret]

Originally Posted by Athana

I usually buy a strap for a guitar and put it on usually with washers to prevent accidents of guitar slipping off the pin ..I drape them over the body in the case.. When I saw this I looked at my two other guitars which have DiMarzio Italian strap..and found both have staining.One a Relic Cunetto has a real dark one, but it blends in..it happened so gradually on it I thought it was part of the original job..yeechs!

With a guitar of that quality, I would seriously recommend getting strap locks so you can still have the guitar secure while playing, but easily remove the strap for storage.

Hand made leather straps are almost always dyed. That, as well as the toxic chemicals used for curing cannot be good for the guitar over long term contact. I don't think there is any way to permanently seal leather to prevent the dyes from running a little - No matter how expensive the strap is.

I've got a custom made $180 leather strap that I love using on my Strat, but it never stays on the guitar... mainly because I want to look after the strap more than the guitar, LOL ...

[Athana]

Originally Posted by moondoggie999

Beautiful Strat! Love the color. The slight dark mark gives it character. Instead of worrying any further, embrace the mark and dent and call this one "Scar" short for Scarlett.

Thanks.
It makes no sense..my wife and I were so stupidly depressed for the rest of that day..it was ridiculous.
And on the other hand, I saw a Pink Relic beat up Strat last week and said to myself now THAT looks good. : )

[Athana]

Originally Posted by Fred

If somebody told you that was an ACOUSTIC guitar, you really got cheated.

That's True : (

[ukejon]

Often, the phrase "You get what you pay for" refers to the low quality of low cost things. In other words, a $150 car generally is not a very good vehicle and a $1.00 watch may not keep very good time. Your complaint instead is about the understandable concept that "You should get what you pay for." But as you acknowledge, in many respects you did get a great handmade guitar. So embrace the small defects....after all, you said the guitar sounds good. Go play the heck out of it.

[EasyEd]

Hey All,

I see the root of the problem. He needs a better car. Even my Jeep does better than 14mpg. I guess you get what you pay for.

-Ed-

[Athana]

Originally Posted by ecguitar44

Seems like you paid $5,000 extra for pink paint on a $3,000 guitar.

Bummer about the stain, neck, and ding. All can be fixed. Life's too short to dwell. You'll be jammin' out on that thing in 4 short months.

Ah!
Glad you say that. : )
Actually its in the details...
Tell me what you think.
Bodies are one piece & selected for most resonance.
Neck Quartersawn maple reproducing a very fat 1955 era neck but with 9.5 radius
Neck as perfectly straight as possible with no raise at body overlap..
set up with very low action..Shell Pink, a thin finish,Antiquity Pickups
I asked it be Made like an old one..and he said..I can do that..

In general it looks like a Squier or something in that color ..but its in the handling that it dawns on you, wait a minute this is something very different.

[Athana]

Originally Posted by EasyEd

Hey All,

I see the root of the problem. He needs a better car. Even my Jeep does better than 14mpg. I guess you get what you pay for.

-Ed-

Wife's car..I don't even drive. : (
Really good wife, super cute,takes me everywhere. : )

[Athana]

Originally Posted by aknow

I can't believe anyone would pay $5K for a Fender strat like that.
I also don't care for the color. It's your fault your car gets low mpg, why complain about that? Whoever sold you that guitar got what you paid for.

Even more unbelievable is a person who actually ordered 2 like that : )

Its in the details of the making(one guy at a bench)who has looked for & selected certain woods that are resonant,personal attention and the most important..perfect necks..(which has been my biggest problem with guitars cause I use very low action).
This guy really did deliver two new Pre CBS guitars.
What do you think ?

[Wade Hampton]

Athana, I'm not going to comment on the Strat, given that electric guitars are not at all my field of expertise. But getting custom work done is generally expensive. The Custom Shop at Fender is undoubtedly a profit-generator for the company, otherwise they wouldn't take on that work.

I do want to chime in on the subject of storing leather straps with guitars. Particularly when the guitars have nitro-cellulose lacquer finishes, it's just a bad idea to leave the leather in direct contact with the guitar's finish, as you've discovered. Both lacquer and many leather dyes have volatile chemicals in them that can create chemical reactions when they are left touching each other.

When nitro-cellulose lacquer finishes are brand new and so are the straps, sometimes it's a bad idea to even have them closed up in the same case together if both are fresh and heavily off-gassing those chemicals. When brand new vinyl is placed in close proximity to new lacquer, again, they don't even have to touch for problems to ensue.

Sorry you've had to discover a lot of this the hard way. Getting Schaller straplocks and removing the straps whenever the guitars aren't in use is probably a good idea.

Hope this helps.


Wade Hampton Miller

[Sasquatchman]

Sounds like Fender delivered an absolutely awesome guitar and bad fortune has made you bitter. Understand that the neck could be stuck because of a humidity change. Understand that the stain from the strap could just be a basic incompatibility with a clear finish and a leather dye. Understand that the tech offered to fix the damage. The problems in all these scenarios basically come down to user error. You got what you paid for.

C'est la vie.

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[scottishrogue]

Sorry for your misfortune. I'd heard that leather will sometimes affect guitar finishes, even though I've never had it happen to me. I would try using some Ronsonol Lighter Fluid (containing Naphtha) on a rag, to see if that will remove the stain, or rubbing in a drop of guitar polish, using a microfiber cloth.

Glen

[Drubbing]

Now it's not pristine, you might as well go ahead and do what Fender have done with their latest Ltd Ed. '52 Relic Tele. Stick it an in oven, take an angle grinder to it, drop it down some stairs and stick a $6k price tag on it. $-wise, it's not much different to yours.




You don't get what you pay for, you pay for what you get.

Expensive stuff is always well beyond diminished returns $$ wise, regardless if you get back what you paid for it down the track.

[Larry Pattis]

You get what you pay for...when you're educated about what you're doing.

Otherwise, well, P.T. Barnum comes to mind...