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I understood his reasons which were distinctly clarified.... (And I am assuming he compared them side by side) but I did not see where the exact timeline of events is specified . But I certainly could have missed something
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Both the One Pro and Nano 608i filled the rooms I played in. I didn't focus on the spread as much as I focused on the sound and the abilities of the mixer to create the sound I was looking for, though I can say that when walking around the room I didn't feel that I was losing anything on the edges. The only place I noticed a difference is when getting closer to the full towers you lose the fullness because the sub is at your feet and the tops are above your head - which if you lower the towers both devices can overcome this for a closer audience. So no definitive answer for horizontal spread. Quote:
Another option, if you are wary of the One Pro, is to look into a battery solution for the Nano 300. I saw a YouTube video of a busker who was using a GolfBuddy battery to power her Bose Compact and a Mic Mechanic pedal. Quote:
The draw of the One Pro is the all-in-one system and the battery. Again if you do not rely on the One Pro's mixer for gain and EQ and you need/want a battery then it should work out. The two I received from the same seller has some high pitched noises which I couldn't overlook. This may not be the case with all of the One Pros. Last edited by dragonfly66; 10-05-2017 at 10:51 AM. |
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Unfortunately any comparison of "sound" (which is an intangible ) unlike the feature set (which is tangible ) not done side by side, even though it "could possibly" represent some level of accuracy, it also carries the potential for time differential memory inaccuracy and is not as valid as side by side. Which is why I was asking for specific clarification. Which we now have. So moving on
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Yes, I noticed that you didn't understand what I tried to say. Probably my fault. Should've explained better what I wanted to transmit.
In this type of situation and issues, I don't think that a memory inaccuracy changes anything. Anyway, if several days had elapsed between the tests, that could probably generate some memory inaccuracies. But in this case, no such thing happened. |
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Update on JBL EON One Pro. My band mate received one several weeks ago and while it was favorable, the noise that others mentioned presented itself and there was also some distortion. So the Rep at Sweetwater offered to send a replacement with plenty of time to evaluate.
The new JBL Eon One Pro arrived and we gigged with it last night. In one word it was "Superb". Duo gig. I played bass straight into one channel on 75% of our music. (My duo partner plays acoustic guitar and we both sing) We went straight into the mixer. Volumes on the JBL Mixer were at Noon and plenty for this steakhouse gig. We have plenty more range on the volume knobs to deliver the volume level owe need. (We both have active preamps on our pedal boards for our guitars. We use Sennheiser e935 vocal mics. (No extra preamps or mixers) Normally we use Bose L1 Compact and also bring a small mixer. So last night was the maiden voyage gig ...going straight into the mixer. We stood 3 feet in front and the JBL Eon One Pro in between us. The tone and quality of sound was excellent. Can't wait to try it again. The one thing it offers that no other system seems to is the ease of transporting. all-in-one. and the Subwoofer low end outperforms the Bose L1 Compact. I am now tempted to buy one for myself so we can gig a pair of these. How about that?
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You should try pushing it like you might need it at a louder gig. It might hit its limits earlier than you expect. |
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That is exactly true. Tried it and it hits its limit as all gear does when you approach or exceed its threshold for best performance. Sadly, the EON One Pro promises to deliver more than it achieves in my opinion and experience.
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Reviving this old thread to offer some new insights.
Like Dragonfly66, I purchased the HK Nano 608i and have used it with success the past year. A situation presented itself where I would need to leave my 608i for an expended period of time for our club. We are pairing it with an outboard digital mixer and the results are excellent. I’m using the Bose S1 Pro at home for rehearsals. However, after committing to this new arrangement, another opportunity presented itself to do some gigs as a duo with a new playing partner. It’s going to be inconvenient to retrieve the 608i for those gigs. Many events will occur at the same time. I started considering some other options, including getting a second S1 Pro, Bose L1, etc. I need only 4 channels and moderate volume. I decided to take advantage of a 40% off local sale on a new JBL Eon One Pro. By the time I got there, they had sold out. So, they ordered me a new one. I have not gigged this unit. I’ve only had 30 minutes total to play with it before leaving for an appointment. Overall, the 608i is a better (louder) system. If you are going to invest in one system, I would recommend it. But, after the brief test I can say there are a few advantages to the JBL Eon One Pro over HK Nano 608i. 1. Form factor and setup. You really want/need the S pole for the 608i. The S pole threads are easy to strip - this comes from experience. 2. Weight. This JBL is much easier to carry around with one hand. Much easier. 3. The High Z on the JBL sounds much better than the instrument setting for the 608i when using a passive pickup like a K&K. I never liked the sound of a passive pickup into the 608i. Active systems sound lovely. But, you really need a DI box or preamp. 4. Ease of quick changes. Knobs are actually kind of nice to have as long as you don’t need mid fequency control. 5. Battery. So far, mine is not hot, nor is it exhibiting the problem that units with defective lithium ion batteries were exhibiting. If you don’t need a super loud system (100 - 105 dB) and you need 4 channels, high Z, phantom power, a USB charger, under 40 lbs (one hand carry), and 6 hours of battery use, I do think it’s worth consideration. I will report back if I experience ANY of the problems others have reported. But, I understand that there were a batch of defective batteries in many of the initial stock offered for sale. Cheers!
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Cool, looking forward to how gigging with it goes. I gather you don't find the gain staging to be a problem--I seem to recall long discussions about one of the signal paths, was it the Mic setting, being a bit tame.
Also glad to hear about success with your Nano 608i. I sense it didn't catch on much in the U.S., based on my noticing a few months ago it was no longer stocked in two or three of the venues I habitually check. (I don't mean to ding the system, lots of great products don't set the world on fire). |
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I suspect the 608i will be refreshed soon. Maybe summer NAMM?
Gain staging is an issue with this unit like a lot of the other systems. One thing Fishman and Bose do well is providing enough preamp gain. Basically, with this unit, a dynamic mic will be the lowest common denominator. So, you have to setup the system to gain stage the mic first at the gig. Then, the guitar will have to be staged to match the mic. If you use a pedal systems like TC Play Acoustic, you’ll have no worries. Some people have reported issues with the system that I (so far - knock on wood) haven’t experienced. A few folks have reported great results in moderate volume applications. If my home testing is indicative of how it will go when I play out, I’m hopeful. In case anyone is wondering, the USB power is not enough to power a pedal like Play Acoustic or ToneDexter with an adaptor. I tired. :-). You would need another source of battery. It should charge a phone or tablet, however.
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