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Old 01-29-2020, 02:02 PM
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Default Godin vs Epiphone vs The Loar vs ???

What archtop in your opinion would be best for an introductory Jazz guitar for someone with relatively small hands?

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Old 01-29-2020, 02:39 PM
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"jazz guitar."


That can mean different things...acoustic archtop or plugging in? That will affect my answer.
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Acoustic. Doubt I would play publicly-at least for quite a while. Mostly chord melody stuff. I have an Ovation Elite. Would that suffice?
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So I'm never one to talk somebody out of a guitar, but that Ovation Elite is a great acoustic jazz chord melody guitar.

The all acoustic Loars are the best sounding of the guitars you mentioned, but they would not be my first choice for someone with small hands. Big ol V necks on those.

The Godins are great, especially the one pickup Kingpin. The all acoustic 5th Avenue is very well built and comfortable, but it's a small laminate box and it just doesn't make much sound. Its pleasant though, and they're not making them anymore, so you might find a real deal out there somewhere.

The recent Epiphone acoustic archtop aren't much to talk about, imho.
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...The all acoustic Loars are the best sounding of the guitars you mentioned, but they would not be my first choice for someone with small hands. Big ol V necks on those...
Here's something that should be right up your alley - 1-3/4" neck but fairly comfortable (FYI I also prefer slimmer necks), sweet mellow tone that works well with chord-melody (thanks to the mahogany sides/back), and the price is definitely right for an all-solid/all-carved jazzbox in that condition:

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Ea...r-115954046.gc
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Here's something that should be right up your alley - 1-3/4" neck but fairly comfortable (FYI I also prefer slimmer necks), sweet mellow tone that works well with chord-melody (thanks to the mahogany sides/back), and the price is definitely right for an all-solid/all-carved jazzbox in that condition:

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Ea...r-115954046.gc
Whoa, OP, pounce on this.
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Here's something that should be right up your alley - 1-3/4" neck but fairly comfortable (FYI I also prefer slimmer necks), sweet mellow tone that works well with chord-melody (thanks to the mahogany sides/back), and the price is definitely right for an all-solid/all-carved jazzbox in that condition:

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Ea...r-115954046.gc
That's pretty much the guitar I have (mine started out as an Eastman MDC 805 mandocello, but I converted it to a 6 string guitar). I love it. New they're almost $2,000. A definite better deal than anything I've seen lately.
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Old 01-30-2020, 08:45 AM
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I'll agree with the thoughts of everyone, having owned a sample of all three options. The Eastmans have the most going for them in all aspects, quality, sound and play-ability. The acoustic Godin 5th Ave. is an easy to play, well built and fun guitar, but as stated, has a limited voice. Unfortunately, the Epiphones got us all excited when the debuted and quickly disappointed when we actually got our hands on them. They looked the part but were over-built, heavy and lacked a convincing sound acoustically and required a different pickup to work plugged in. There's always the vintage route if you can find a solid wood example in decent shape for a reasonable price, but it takes a practiced eye to evaluate the condition of an older archtop. Sorry there isn't a clear cut choice.
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Thanks all! Iím going to forge ahead on the Ovation for a while and if I make decent progress then Iíll revisit the archtop issue. With my old stiff hands I can either go 1.75Ē nut/short scale or 1 11/16 and standard scale. The Ovation fits my hand very well. Iím mainly a country blues finger picker so this is a bit of a ďbroaden your horizonsĒ thing.
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...Iím going to forge ahead on the Ovation for a while and if I make decent progress then Iíll revisit the archtop issue...
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Whoa, OP, pounce on this.
Once in a while an opportunity comes along that you're not likely to see again in your lifetime (I still regret not jumping on the dead-mint one-owner '43 Epiphone Emperor - with a never-opened original package of spare strings in the case pocket - that sold within 48 hours of its arrival at MandoBros about 30 years ago)...

If I hadn't recently shelled out a not-inconsequential sum for my wife's new Guild Starfire 12-string, with requisite accessories - and will be investing in some needed supplemental stage equipment within the next few weeks (speaker cabs, a mid-powered combo amp for the aforementioned Guild, maybe a mid-powered tube head) - you'd be reading my Eastman AR605 NGD right now...

Jeff's right as usual when it comes to matters of this type: if there's any possible way you can scrounge up the bucks for this little 16" sweetie, do it before someone else does - sometimes a new instrument is exactly what you need to jumpstart your progress...
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I have an all acoustic Godin 5th Avenue, quiet guitar but was my main guitar for like 10 years, played that poor thing hard. I think the neck is sinking or something, but I love that dang guitar, fun one, I like to play folk style on it. I love the short scale.
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