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Old 12-02-2019, 10:53 AM
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Default First time using a pickup - it's not supposed to sound like this, is it?

So I finally got my "recording" setup to work, yet I'm not pleased at all with how it sounds. I'm going through a LR Baggs Anthem to a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 and then into Reaper without any editing, yet to me it sounds like something is very wrong with the pickup. These are very small recordings of the intros to both "Slide" and "More Than A Feeling", just to show you what I mean:


https://soundcloud.com/pillendreher-1/slide-intro
https://soundcloud.com/pillendreher-...-feeling-intro

I am not plucking any string any differently than the one before, yet the 6th and 5th string completely overpower everything else. Hell, if I just let the bottom two strings ring out, I can't even record the other four properly.

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Maestro (the manufacturer of the guitar) just sent me this.

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The imbalance on the volume of the strings is caused by the saddle not sitting well on the UST. you might want to bring it to a technician to have it balanced.

They just need to sand the saddle to rectify this but you might need someone who is experienced in installing under saddle transducer.
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Old 12-02-2019, 11:03 AM
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Itís either a saddle issue (A) or the dual source microphone isnít working. (B)
Sounds more like ďBĒ to me. Sounds like you got all UST.
Did you call Baggs? They are extremely helpful folks.
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Old 12-02-2019, 11:16 AM
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Itís either a saddle issue (A) or the dual source microphone isnít working. (B)
Sounds more like ďBĒ to me. Sounds like you got all UST.
Did you call Baggs? They are extremely helpful folks.
Interesting. Shouldn't I be able to check for the microphone via the

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A. MIX CONTROL (Mixes between mic and pickup)When the mix control is rolled towards the neck, the Tru ē Mic is carrying the majority of the guitarís voice with the Element pickup supporting only the lowest frequencies.

When rolled towards the bridge, you will hear the full-range Element pickup only.When set at full-range pickup, pay careful attention to string balance. If you notice any inconsistencies in output, refer back to 4. ELEMENT INSTALLATION
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E. MIC GAIN CONTROL(Adjusts the level of the Tru ē Mic relative to the level of the Element)IMPORTANT: Setting this control correctly is vital to the sound of the Anthem system.First, you must roll the mix control completely toward the neck. Play through a P.A. or acoustic amplifi er while you are making adjustments. A small fl at-head jewelerís screwdriver will be needed.Your amplifi ed tone should be well balanced and true to the acoustic sound and feel of the guitar. If it lacks clarity and top-end, increase the micís level by turning the control clockwise. Back it off slightly If you experience excessive handling noise and/or brightness


?

Either way, I'll send LR Baggs an E-Mail just to get their take on the whole thing.
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Old 12-02-2019, 01:19 PM
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Just call them during business hours and talk with a tech... you'll have your answer immediately!

One thing to note is that the pickup will sound FAR differently when plugged in to an amplifier or PA as opposed to running "straight in" to your interface.

Also, tweaking the Anthem may be necessary - have you gone ahead and done that or are you still using the "Factory" settings? I'm talking about the adjustments available with the pre-amp/control module that you pictured in one reply...

When I bought my Anthem SL, it was explained to me that I'd need/want to tweak the balance while using MY PA or amp so as to get the best sound performance from the unit...
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Old 12-02-2019, 01:57 PM
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Youíll probably get much better results using a 1 or 2 mic setup with a pair of small condenser microphones into your Scarlett interface and then into Reaper.

Iíve done what you are trying running a pickup into an interface into a DAW and frankly, the mic approach gives much cleaner and accurate recording.
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Old 12-02-2019, 01:57 PM
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Under saddle transducers do rely upon equal pressure along the transducer for uniform output from string to string.

One easy way to rectify the unevenness of pressure is to place a single sheet of writing/printer paper under the saddle in the area of the too-quiet string(s), in your case, a single strip of paper from 4th to 1st strings. Occasionally, a second thickness is required.

It is an easy, inexpensive thing to try that is reversible if it doesn't fix the issue. If it solves the problem, there is no need to fool with sanding the bottom of the saddle.
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Old 12-02-2019, 02:20 PM
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Also, tweaking the Anthem may be necessary - have you gone ahead and done that or are you still using the "Factory" settings? I'm talking about the adjustments available with the pre-amp/control module that you pictured in one reply...

When I bought my Anthem SL, it was explained to me that I'd need/want to tweak the balance while using MY PA or amp so as to get the best sound performance from the unit...
Well I tried it a little bit, but it didn't sound like it made much of a difference. I'll give it another try tomorrow though.

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You’ll probably get much better results using a 1 or 2 mic setup with a pair of small condenser microphones into your Scarlett interface and then into Reaper.

I’ve done what you are trying running a pickup into an interface into a DAW and frankly, the mic approach gives much cleaner and accurate recording.
Yeah that's probably truet. Yet as of right now, I'm just messing around, taking my first steps in the recording world. And so I figured if the guitar comes with a pickup, might as well use it.

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Under saddle transducers do rely upon equal pressure along the transducer for uniform output from string to string.

One easy way to rectify the unevenness of pressure is to place a single sheet of writing/printer paper under the saddle in the area of the too-quiet string(s), in your case, a single strip of paper from 4th to 1st strings. Occasionally, a second thickness is required.

It is an easy, inexpensive thing to try that is reversible if it doesn't fix the issue. If it solves the problem, there is no need to fool with sanding the bottom of the saddle.
Oh. So let's see if I get this right - you're saying my saddle isn't applying even enough pressure to the "top" of the guitar?

EDIT: Come to think of it, the saddle fell out of the guitar two weeks ago while I was putting on new strings and cleaned it. Is that an indicator for a saddle that's too loose?
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:47 AM
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Well I guess now I know why the sound is this whack:



That's the underside of the saddle. Looks a bit like resin and I can actually feel the way the whole thing is coated with it.

Just talked to the shop I bought it at and they're going to fix it.
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