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08-17-2019, 11:24 AM
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Where did you hear that?
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08-17-2019, 11:31 AM
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I have 4 cedar top guitar's. 23, 22, 20 and 13 years old. The older ones keep sounding better all the time.
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08-17-2019, 11:32 AM
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Total bunk. If it seems like huey...... it's huey.
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08-17-2019, 11:39 AM
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Total nonsense.
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08-17-2019, 01:28 PM
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There were a couple of Spanish luthiers in a feud and the one who used spruce started that rumor to damage the other who used cedar.
I've got a twenty year old cedar-topped Taylor that sounds wonderful. Bob
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08-17-2019, 02:23 PM
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08-17-2019, 02:29 PM
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I heard the same thing probably 25 years ago when I was just starting out. "Cedar tops tend to muddy with age." The way it was explained to me is that they start out warm, and as they age that warmth just keeps deepening until it turns into a muddy sound.
I have a cedar top Seagull that's in the 15-20 year old range, and it still sounds like it did the day I got it.
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08-17-2019, 02:56 PM
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If anything, my 26 year old Martin HDC 28 has gotten better over time.
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08-17-2019, 03:08 PM
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Your hearing changes faster than cedar changes. We hear a lesser proportion of higher frequencies with age. Cedar produces
less higher frequency content than spruce so perhaps to some people it begins to sound a little dull as their ears age.
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08-17-2019, 03:19 PM
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08-17-2019, 04:06 PM
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Andres Segovia made this claim many decades ago. Luthier James Goodall did also (about 20 years ago) in a statement on his website, although he qualified it somewhat.
I owned a cedar topped Ramirez 1a classical for about 24 years and never noticed as such phenomena, although I wasn't really looking for such a thing. As rick-slo mentioned above, hearing changes over the decades and I don't know how anyone could test this claim over several decades with any objective confidence.
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08-17-2019, 04:28 PM
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I thought James Taylor once said guitars have a "shelf life" before they give out, and that some in the classical world believed the same.
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