New TONEDEXTER Video !!! - Page 3

James May · #31 02-01-2016, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by guitaniac

To muddy the waters a bit, here's a quote of designer James May from the previous ToneDexter thread.

"This is essentially correct, but I should add that feedback immunity is excellent in both cases (whether using an SBT or a UST). ToneDexter has some additional "extra special secret sauce" (translated - DSP processing magic) that fixes trouble spots likely to cause feedback. Sounding "exactly like the mic" would not cut it for moderate to loud situations."

Apparently, sounding exactly like your guitar being externally miked can be problematic (with respect to feedback) whether the signal is coming from an external mic or a digital processor.

On the plus side, what a great boon to SBT users this will be if ToneDexter can actually eliminate the extra feedback vulnerability of that particular pickup type.

To elaborate on the feedback issue a bit: If you stand in front of a mic, you will almost certainly feedback too easily for moderate to loud levels of amplification. This is not because of the mic and PA, but rather because a guitar typically has resonant hot spots, the biggest one typically being the low G or G#. Try listening to that note with your ear and you will probably hear that it is louder that the surrounding notes. Well, that is usually the first place feedback occurs.

How we do it is proprietary, but what we do in software is to tame those resonances so they don't cause feedback, while at the same time not changing the tone in undesirable ways. It's way better than a notch or series of notches would be to fix the issue. I hope that clarifies things. It is a new paradigm.

Doubleneck · #32 02-01-2016, 10:26 AM

It should be fascinating as we have individuals on the forum obtain this product and report back their experience. Hope Doug Young is listening.

otavio · #33 02-01-2016, 10:32 AM

Do we have beta/final testers here?!
James, when we gonna se a full review with different microphones, guitars and pickups?!?

buzzardwhiskey · #34 02-01-2016, 10:42 AM

Apparently the Tonedexter Kickstarter campaign failed. Is the project able to move forward?

LookerBob · #35 02-01-2016, 11:15 AM

When setting this up, would there be any advantage or disadvantage to running the mic through your favorite preamp? Sorry if previously answered...

James May · #36 02-01-2016, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by buzzardwhiskey

Apparently the Tonedexter Kickstarter campaign failed. Is the project able to move forward?

We are moving forward with private funding.

James May · #37 02-01-2016, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LookerBob

When setting this up, would there be any advantage or disadvantage to running the mic through your favorite preamp? Sorry if previously answered...

The built in mic pre is first rate and very transparent. So, not really.

Blueblimp · #38 02-01-2016, 12:14 PM

So, pickup systems like the Barbera, Takamine or Maton AP-5 are not ideal candidates?

Vancebo · #39 02-01-2016, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueblimp

So, pickup systems like the Barbera, Takamine or Maton AP-5 are not ideal candidates?

Okay, here is my question being asked again. Again, I ask why is this so? Mr. May, this is directed at you. Please inform us. I just want to understand the technology a little better.

urlkonig · #40 02-01-2016, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by James May

So yes, when I say piezo, I also mean sound board transducers like K&K. And, it works with micrphone pickups like Lyric and film type pickups such as B-Band.

James -- what are the feedback characteristics when used with the Lyric at "moderate to loud" volume?

dannyg1 · #41 02-01-2016, 04:13 PM

With the kickstarter campaign over, can we all still get in on the early production discounts?

Petty1818 · #42 02-01-2016, 05:18 PM

Sounds pretty awesome but it is pricey. I like how you can save presets for various instruments. This could be the only DI/preamp that I would need with my acoustic, mandolin and octave mandolin. My only concern would be figuring out the eq for each instrument when I switch from one to the other.

kurth83 · #43 02-01-2016, 05:33 PM

Get an EQ with presets, then you can match them.

Petty1818 · #44 02-01-2016, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kurth83

Get an EQ with presets, then you can match them.

Definitely could be a possibility. I think I will wait to see how this unit does before buying into it. That's a lot of money to spend.

LookerBob · #45 02-01-2016, 07:43 PM

Do the presets not include EQ settings? My impression is that they would... this is, for example, how presets work for a POD. Then you could EQ on the fly from that preset, but the preset would include any settings you had at the time... I may be wrong.