More Tonedexter Mic Questions

[poopsidoo]

What happens if I use a wave map recorded with one guitar using another guitar

[Doug Young]

Originally Posted by poopsidoo

What happens if I use a wave map recorded with one guitar using another guitar

Then you will have the EQ curve ToneDexter learned from guitar A applied to guitar B. Imagine you have a graphic EQ, and you adjust it by hand so that guitar A sounds good. Then you play guitar B thru it without readjusting. What happens? It will be roughly the same with ToneDexter. Might sound good, might not.

The beauty of ToneDexter is that you get to create wavemaps tuned for each guitar/pickup, tho. That's how it will sound the best, and it's easy to do. But if you happen to find a patch that works on multiple guitars, that's fine too.

[phcorrigan]

I think the answer is "it depends."

The wavemap is a differential between your guitar's acoustic sound as recorded by a microphone and the sound the pickup produces, so the results are somewhat unpredictable. On the other hand, I believe James May has created wavemaps for silent guitars using this approach.

[dnf777]

Originally Posted by poopsidoo

What happens if I use a wave map recorded with one guitar using another guitar

Try it— its fun. I have a map in my 3 spot that works quite nicely on 3 guitars.

[buzzardwhiskey]

This might not be received very well, but after watching Mary Spender on a YouTube vid talk about training her ToneDexter with an SM57, I revisited that mic.

And she has a good point. When the volume really climbs, the importance of accuracy just seems to go out the window.

[Petty1818]

Originally Posted by buzzardwhiskey

This might not be received very well, but after watching Mary Spender on a YouTube vid talk about training her ToneDexter with an SM57, I revisited that mic.

And she has a good point. When the volume really climbs, the importance of accuracy just seems to go out the window.

Do you have a link to the video by any chance?

[buzzardwhiskey]

Originally Posted by Petty1818

Do you have a link to the video by any chance?

I don't. And what's worse is that I can't find it.

Embarrassing, but I think there's a possibility that it wasn't Ms Spender. I know that it was a young lady who was going on about how lovely she'd found the Tonedexter... Oh, bother. Sorry.

[jonfields45]

Originally Posted by buzzardwhiskey

I don't. And what's worse is that I can't find it.

Embarrassing, but I think there's a possibility that it wasn't Ms Spender. I know that it was a young lady who was going on about how lovely she'd found the Tonedexter... Oh, bother. Sorry.

Molly Tuttle?

[Petty1818]

Originally Posted by jonfields45

Molly Tuttle?

Yeah, that’s what I was going to say. Sounds a lot like the Molly Tuttle video.

[buzzardwhiskey]

Yes! Molly Tuttle!

I apologize.

In fact, near the end of this video is her admission...

https://youtu.be/DBbOpHUatVI

[phcorrigan]

Originally Posted by buzzardwhiskey

Yes! Molly Tuttle!

I apologize.

In fact, near the end of this video is her admission...

https://youtu.be/DBbOpHUatVI

Thanks. Because of your mistake I discovered Mary Spender!

[Br1ck]

I have found more and more as artists build a larger YouTube audience, and especially with their gigs drying up, the latest new thing seems to end up in their studios and they spend more and more time gushing about them. Mary Spender's name has come up, and she did a PRS John Meyer video that sounded like it came straight out of the marketing department, with tons of micro detail maybe even the geekiest wouldn't know. I just quit watching it.

The grain of salt is turning into boulders lately.

[Petty1818]

Originally Posted by Br1ck

I have found more and more as artists build a larger YouTube audience, and especially with their gigs drying up, the latest new thing seems to end up in their studios and they spend more and more time gushing about them. Mary Spender's name has come up, and she did a PRS John Meyer video that sounded like it came straight out of the marketing department, with tons of micro detail maybe even the geekiest wouldn't know. I just quit watching it.

The grain of salt is turning into boulders lately.

I don’t think this is a bad thing. If the Tonedexter gets more exposure then I consider that a good thing. You have to understand though that many musicians with a YouTube channel who do reviews, do so because companies send them gear to demo. It looks like marketing because often times that’s exactly what it is. I don’t personally watch gear demos to hear what the musician thinks, I watch them to hear the gear itself and then I make a judgement call on whether or not I want the product. It’s true that there’s a lot of gimmicky gear out there but the Tonedexter is really worth the hype.

[phcorrigan]

Originally Posted by Petty1818

It’s true that there’s a lot of gimmicky gear out there but the Tonedexter is really worth the hype.

Agreed. I want my plugged-in acoustic to sound like my unplugged acoustic, and not just sound better than the raw pickup. I didn't pay a couple of grand for my HD-28V to hear piezo quack. The ToneDexter is the only device I've found that gives me the sound I want.

[ol4t]

Originally Posted by ljguitar

Hi a-m

My Shure KSM-44 on cardioid pattern or my AKG 414-TLII…at about 12-14" off the neck body joint (level with the fingerboard). These are both 1" large diaphragm mics.

Next I like my Peluso CEMC6 with the cardioid capsule from the same position/distance. My next to least favorite was the Rode NT3 (from any of the 3 recording distances/positions I've settled on).

Both the Rode and Peluso have 20mm capsules which I call medium diaphragm (as opposed to 26-28mm large diaphragms, or 10-15mm small diaphragm mics). Naming or describing capsule sizes is not the important thing, but how they sound in the end.

Interestingly, for doing sound recording of guitars, violins, cellos, and other medium body size instruments I gravitate toward my Peluso or Rode NT3 more often than the large diaphragm mics (which I usually reserve for voices).

But with the ToneDexter I prefer the end results of using the large diaphragm microphones so far.

My absolute least favorite is a Shure SM-57…from ANY position.

I just got my TD 2 last week. Did all the first recordings at first with a Shure 81 like the recommendation. Went back and did them again with a Shure 44. As I compared the two mics, I deleted all the Shure 81 recordings. They seemed to capture the sound I wanted from my guitars.