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Old 01-01-2021, 08:35 AM
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I know it would be best to contact Teddy but being a holiday, I'll post my question here first. Looking at my Dazzo set there's the white housing that has a smooth, white surface on one side with the other side having a kind of rough black surface with a red-piping around the perimeter of the housing and a glued edge seal. I've plugged my Dazzo set into the Steel Guitar Black Box and listened with headphones. Tapping on the Dazzo transducers, I can get a signal from both the white smooth side and the black sealed side of each transducer, Here's my dumb question:

Given a lack of installation instructions, I assume that the smooth white side of the transducer housing is the side that gets epoxied to the bridge plate. Is correct?

Thanks!
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Can you please post pictures?

It will help when others jump into the Dazzo bandwagon
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I know it would be best to contact Teddy but being a holiday, I'll post my question here first. Looking at my Dazzo set there's the white housing that has a smooth, white surface on one side with the other side having a kind of rough black surface with a red-piping around the perimeter of the housing and a glued edge seal. I've plugged my Dazzo set into the Steel Guitar Black Box and listened with headphones. Tapping on the Dazzo transducers, I can get a signal from both the white smooth side and the black sealed side of each transducer, Here's my dumb question:

Given a lack of installation instructions, I assume that the smooth white side of the transducer housing is the side that gets epoxied to the bridge player. Is correct?

Thanks!
Indeed, my friend! I did the wrong installation first! Ha! Even with the Teddy instructions, I glued the dark part on the bridge. The sound looked like my HFN. Then, Teddy told me to glue the white side, smooth, on the bridge, and then POOF! The magic happened! So, yeah... the smooth white part of the Dazzo is the one that might be epoxed to the bridge.

I hope that helps.
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Indeed, my friend! I did the wrong installation first! Ha! Even with the Teddy instructions, I glued the dark part on the bridge. The sound looked like my HFN. Then, Teddy told me to glue the white side, smooth, on the bridge, and then POOF! The magic happened! So, yeah... the smooth white part of the Dazzo is the one that might be epoxed to the bridge.

I hope that helps.
Thanks, Rodrigo!
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Can you please post pictures?

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Here you go Cuki:

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What are the materials for both sides? Plastic?
What are the dimensions (triangle side, and thickness)?

The white part seems almost transparent, we can nearly see another triangle inside drawn by the sidewall sickness...

If you Pandapandelo is right about the HFN like tone, it might tell us the piezo sensor is on the white side (base)... since we know the HFN suspend the sensor far from the saddle line.

Interesting...
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Given a lack of installation instructions, I assume that the smooth white side of the transducer housing is the side that gets epoxied to the bridge plate. Is correct?

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Why not go the website and watch the linked Youtube installation?

www.dazzopickups.com

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Why not go the website and watch the linked Youtube installation?

www.dazzopickups.com

Thanks, Jon, but I've done that. What varies is that the color of the Dazzos has changed over the years, By the way, I Love This Video As Teddy Unintentionally Channels A 1970s Comic's Routine!*

*What was the comedian's name who was often on The Mike Douglas Show and Merv Griffin in the late 1970s who always knocked things over when he was presenting various products creating a mess on the table by the time he was finished his shtick?
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What are the materials for both sides? Plastic?
What are the dimensions (triangle side, and thickness)?

The white part seems almost transparent, we can nearly see another triangle inside drawn by the sidewall sickness...

If you Pandapandelo is right about the HFN like tone, it might tell us the piezo sensor is on the white side (base)... since we know the HFN suspend the sensor far from the saddle line.

Interesting...
Dazzo Transducer Dimensions:

.750 inches (19.1 mm) radius-to-radius x .271 inches (6.88 mm) thick

Physical Appearance:

White Housing: likely a phenolic-type compound.

Black Housing Cap: it almost looks like carbon fiber or maybe a black phenolic-type material. The Black Cap is sealed around its perimeter with thin red material with what appears to be clear glue on top of it (clear epoxy or cyanoacrylate, i.e., super glue?).
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Thanks SpruceTop!!!
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He is also making wood housings now.
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Teddy has used white plastic, a black plastic and a variety of wood choices.

Teddy uses sand paper to rough up the bottom of the pickup to allow it to stick better to the wood. The whole bottom surface has glue applied to it. The smooth part is there in case you decide to remove the pickup someday. You would insert a razor blade between the wood and the pickup at that top of the triangle.
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I know it would be best to contact Teddy but being a holiday, I'll post my question here first. Looking at my Dazzo set there's the white housing that has a smooth, white surface on one side with the other side having a kind of rough black surface with a red-piping around the perimeter of the housing and a glued edge seal. I've plugged my Dazzo set into the Steel Guitar Black Box and listened with headphones. Tapping on the Dazzo transducers, I can get a signal from both the white smooth side and the black sealed side of each transducer, Here's my dumb question:

Given a lack of installation instructions, I assume that the smooth white side of the transducer housing is the side that gets epoxied to the bridge plate. Is correct?

Thanks!
Hi Spruce top :-)
The white composite side goes down on the guitar wood plate to be glued down .
Whereas the black wooden lid (sometimes red wood lids , not in your case )
goes side 'up' for decoration and looks ( just kidding ).
I do have a video (for anyone who wants to know ) on youtube called 'dazzo installation' that walks thru some of this .
One note is that you will notice a rough part and a smooth part near the tail where the wire goes in .
This smooth part is for easy removal . I use a razor and kind of poke/ pry it under that point and the glue wont bond (hopefully) too much to that part .
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Thanks, Jon, but I've done that. What varies is that the color of the Dazzos has changed over the years, By the way, I Love This Video As Teddy Unintentionally Channels A 1970s Comic's Routine!*

*What was the comedian's name who was often on The Mike Douglas Show and Merv Griffin in the late 1970s who always knocked things over when he was presenting various products creating a mess on the table by the time he was finished his shtick?
Time for a new video !
I have found a better glue that actually holds the pickup better because its sticky and gooey and doesnt drop the pickup like in the video .

Its called "Loctite 6 minuet epoxy gel " and is available online or at ACE hardware
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Dazzoman, I remember seeing something not too long ago about experimenting with using tape to install them. Any news on that front?
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