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Open chord to barre chord changes
So, I still struggle with barre chords, but I keep trying. Right now I'm playing the Beatles tune, The Night Before. There is a Bm to Gm6 that goes back and forth a couple of times. The change from the Bm to the Gm6 is very natural, but then to go back to the Bm I seem to have to do a lot of finger arranging, which of course ruins the rhythm and the song. Sounds awesome when done correctly!
What I've discovered is that practicing this change repetitively to get the muscle memory is more productive if I don't worry about making the barre sound perfect. It's just the finger motion of the change that I need to get right now and once I have that I'll work on getting it to sound good. I offer this post in the nature of a PSA in case anyone else is struggling similarly.
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You are practicing playing badly, and that is what your muscles are learning to do. Slow it down until you can play both cleanly and in rhythm.
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I take Howard's point and agree practicing 'mistakes' is counterproductive. However, if you're talking about full 5 & 6 string chords, you seldom really need to sound all the strings all the time. The first downbeat of a change is a good place to get the bass 2 or 3 strings, while the rest of your fingers scurry into place for the 1& or even the 2 beat. Even when you can make the full change quickly & seamlessly, partial chords are a good way to easily add a little sonic diversity.
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Bm: x24432 (regular Bm barre) Gm6: 3x0330 And they are played over the words "Now today I find, you have changed your mind", with the Bm on the "Now" and the "You", and the Gm6 on the "find" and the "mind", So Bm-2-3-4, Gm6-2-3-4, Bm-2-3-4, Gm6-2-3-4. |
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I'll take your advice to: Quote:
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I've always done both: practice slowly/perfectly and practice for transitional speed.
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Bm over Now today I Gm6 over find Bm over you have changed your Gm6 over mind.
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I think there is validity to your method, at least until it starts to feel somewhat natural for the fingers to take the positions you are forcing them into. In my case I used this method to learn how to shift to a "new to me" version of the D9 chord--first position, 3rd in the bass, which just seemed weird to my hand You can see it here, top row, center. https://www.jamplay.com/tools/guitar...ndard/4-d/12-9 Moving on to the whole song the only way I have found to impose the discipline needed to actually play slow, slower, slowest until it all sounds good is with a metronome. Otherwise it's "off to the races" as my teacher calls my "style" Using a metronome can feel unnatural and boring, but the benefits are amazing!
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The chord changes are all on beat one (for the whole verse, including the Bm / Gm6 changes), as I hear it, but the book of course only has chords over lyrics, so it does not confirm this. What you are saying is correct: the Bm is over "Now today I", which is beats 1-2-3-4, then the Gm6 is over "Find...", which is beats 1-2-3-4, then the next Bm is over "You have changed your", which is beats 1-2-3-4, and then the next Gm6 is over "Mind...", which is beats 1-2-3-4. So it's four bars, alternating Bm and Gm6, with the chord changes on the first beat of each bar. |
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Fret the Gm6 with 2nd, 3rd and 4th fingers.
On chord changes focus where the finger for the lowest note is going - for Bm that will be the 1st (index) finger and for the Cm6 that will be the 2nd (middle) finger. On short order the other fingers used for the chords will follow along obediently. Excruciatingly slow practice is not the answer for everything. Sometimes it is a handicap if the way you are playing slowly is not the best for playing at tempo.
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I actually find it quite a bit easier to fret the G on the low E string with my thumb.
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