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Old 01-16-2019, 11:06 PM
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Again, thanks @monsum for the comparison.

Useful examples. I liked all the Schatten over K+K immediately.

On my speakers, the biggest improvement was the percussive example. As someone said earlier, a miked-quality. The strummed example seemed to overdo it in the low 'air' band.

I didn't see it posted, but was this tape or putty?
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Old 01-16-2019, 11:42 PM
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Again, thanks @monsum for the comparison.

Useful examples. I liked all the Schatten over K+K immediately.

On my speakers, the biggest improvement was the percussive example. As someone said earlier, a miked-quality. The strummed example seemed to overdo it in the low 'air' band.

I didn't see it posted, but was this tape or putty?
Monsum used the tape. I found the putty tone better for my guitar.
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Old 01-17-2019, 10:26 AM
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Just to be clear, the active version requires a battery inside the guitar, while the passive version does not; is that correct?
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Old 01-17-2019, 10:30 AM
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Just to be clear, the active version requires a battery inside the guitar, while the passive version does not; is that correct?
Yes that is correct. To add to that, passive pickups require an external preamp of some sort, while not mandatory by no means but definitely recommended.
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Old 01-18-2019, 09:19 AM
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Just to be clear, the active version requires a battery inside the guitar, while the passive version does not; is that correct?
Some active versions (Artist II preamp, I believe) also allow for phantom power, so that would negate the need for an internal battery
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Old 01-18-2019, 10:53 AM
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This post has really convinced me to use the Schatten HFN passive in my McIlroy A30c!! Thanks for all the helpful comments and sound clips too!

Have any you used the LR Baggs Venue along as a preamp/DI for the Schatten? Thatís what Iíve been using with my Taylor 712 ES2 and Iíve really liked it. Any other preamps you recommend?
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Old 01-18-2019, 11:19 AM
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This post has really convinced me to use the Schatten HFN passive in my McIlroy A30c!! Thanks for all the helpful comments and sound clips too!

Have any you used the LR Baggs Venue along as a preamp/DI for the Schatten? Thatís what Iíve been using with my Taylor 712 ES2 and Iíve really liked it. Any other preamps you recommend?
I would think any would work well. I have used mine with my Felix, Spectrum DI and Session DI. In all cases the HFN sounded great. The Venue would be a good pairing.
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Old 01-18-2019, 05:23 PM
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Some active versions (Artist II preamp, I believe) also allow for phantom power, so that would negate the need for an internal battery
Yep best of both worlds actually if for some reason you don't have access to phantom power you still have the option to use a 9v battery. If I were to go back active, that is the one I would be getting.
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:16 PM
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I used this pickup today with a band and a choir and can report that it's feedback rejection is good enough to play in a louder setting (of course it depends on a guitar the pickup is in).
As a precaution I also used a sound-hole cover.
Playing through a Zoom A3 preamp I got a beautiful, pleasing tone. The HFN is definitely a keeper for me.
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:47 PM
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I used this pickup today with a band and a choir and can report that it's feedback rejection is good enough to play in a louder setting (of course it depends on a guitar the pickup is in).
As a precaution I also used a sound-hole cover.
Playing through a Zoom A3 preamp I got a beautiful, pleasing tone. The HFN is definitely a keeper for me.
Thanks for sharing your findings.
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Old 01-19-2019, 01:00 PM
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I used this pickup today with a band and a choir and can report that it's feedback rejection is good enough to play in a louder setting (of course it depends on a guitar the pickup is in).
As a precaution I also used a sound-hole cover.
Playing through a Zoom A3 preamp I got a beautiful, pleasing tone. The HFN is definitely a keeper for me.
Did you need to engage the A3's "search and destroy" feedback zapper?
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Old 01-19-2019, 01:20 PM
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Did you need to engage the A3's "search and destroy" feedback zapper?
No, I didn't have to. But it's good to have this feature on board, just in case.
I used the Zoom's EQ to turn down low frequency of the guitar accordingly but the guitar still sounded rich and not trebly.
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Old 01-19-2019, 01:26 PM
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No, I didn't have to. But it's good to have this feature on board, just in case.
I used the Zoom's EQ to turn down low frequency of the guitar accordingly but the guitar still sounded rich and not trebly.
I often use the A3's EQ sections to control boominess when running sound. I love the fact that you can put the six band graphic EQ and the two band parametric EQ in series and still have the three band manual EQ available for "quick and dirty" adjustments.
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Are you guys still loving this? I want to try one!
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Are you guys still loving this? I want to try one!
I just installed this in my Gibson a few hours ago and yes it's an awesome pickup. I certainly recommend that you try one. I bought the passive version but if I buy another one, and I'm sure I will, I'll be buying the artist version that can be powered by phantom power.
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