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I play a Les Paul Tribute through a 68 Vibrochamp Reissue. Chefs kiss.
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It’s NAD!! After playing some amps by various makers I ended up going with…..A New Fender Hot Rod Deluxe IV!
While I liked the tones of the Fender Deluxe Reverb (all tube), the Deluxe Reverb Tone-master (SS), and the Princeton Reverb...I struggled with the lack of mid control. I realize that It could be “eq’d” by fine tuning the bass and treble setting on the amp, but that is tedious… and still left me missing the mid-range tone I desired. Quite honestly, I prefer the feature set on the HRD over most amps I tried. The Marshall’s on hand were somewhat limited… but all of them left me unimpressed when it related to cleans. While Marshall isn’t necessarily about clean tones I needed something that had high headroom, could provide great clean tones, and take pedals well. IMHO the HRD is all of those. Speaking of pedals, I ended up with 2 new drive pedals as well. A JHS Angry Charlie (V3), and s Nobles ODR-1 mini. The Angry Charlie is “plexi” like. The ODR is a fantastically smooth OD. They sound great alone or, stacked for various gain levels. I tried the new JHS Bonsai for a few days. While I like JHS pedals this one left me a bit perplexed. It does 9 TS variants…great! But, imho…it does 9 TS variants…just okay. None of them great by themselves. And tone control on that guy is VERY limited. Almost mud, or ice pick. No sweet spot. At least for me. I’ve include a couple gratuitous pictures for your enjoyment. And mine Still tweaking, but I’m on the right path tonally. I appreciate the input and suggestions/recommendations. Thx, friends.
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Congratulations! I sort of agree with you about choices. I can't help but feeling that if I ever go back to live work (I live in the studio these days) I'll end up with a dual-amp setup. I love the cleans and edge of distortion sounds of one amp group but end up over on another type entirely for distorted sounds for live. You'll see Fender/Marshall or Matchless/Marshall, for instance. I've seen so many guys do this live and frankly, I've never heard a pedal-based solution that pulled it off. Perhaps I am too picky, but I was inspired by a couple of guys, Eric Johnson and Will Owsley (RIP). For years Eric did the Fender/Marshall thing and Will did the Matchless/Marshall thing. Of course, Joe Walsh also does the multi-amp thing with a pair of Dr. Z thingies. My Helix is even organized this way with clean, crunch, and lead available on Fender or Marshall. I just added another physical tube amp that provides the choice of some of the Vox/Matchless sparkle. Choices, choices.
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Congrats on the HRDlx! It's a popular and great sounding amp that gets less respect I think because:
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I do believe we’d love to know what arrived for that NUAD…assuming this is the “physical tube amp” you’re referring to?
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Addressed above. Ty for the detailed response. I appreciate the time and thought. Seems we have some things in common, friend. Regards, PT
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Gibson electrics, especially older ones sound so good, it almost doesn't matter which amp you use, if you know how to use it.
The L.P. junior, or the SG standard thru a Carr Skylark (12 w.), or a ES 335 thru a vintage blackface deluxe reverb, or a Les Paul through a Carr Super Bee is my current lineup. |
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I do love how they sound though, and I've tried multiple times to figure out ways to get them to work for me without having to use an OD pedal for my main gain stage... If they ever put seperate EQ's on these amps I'd own one in a heartbeat. Last edited by Bushleague; 07-31-2022 at 08:40 PM. |
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In such an outlook as mine, the other channels are a modest plus -- but again for those reading quickly and skipping to your conclusion of deal breaker -- this amp is priced and delivers capabilities similar to amps with single channels or no pre-amp gain circuit. If you were to throw away the channel footswitch it'd be a fine amp that delivers lots of power and valid sounds at a non-boutique or vintage style price. And it works with pedals well. Again, not knocking the Mesa style idea of separate controls for each channel. It's another way to go. To some (generalized) degree modern modelers have perhaps de-emphasized that solution as more players select a completely different "amp" and tone stack scheme via those devices than back when the classic Mesa designs or the HRDlx were designed. *Not bragging here. Due to lack of some basic guitar operator skills and focus, I try to compensate with more timbral colors.
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Congrats on the Hot Rod Deluxe! These are good sounding amps and great pedal platforms!
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all of the HR Deluxe series are nice amps with great Fender clean sounds.
But they are also all very weak on the tones produced from the Gain channel. I have the 4x10 version, it is a BEAST, but you really need a decent OD pedal to get the most out of it. The gain side IS somewhat useable as is, but compared to my plugging straight into my Marshalls, uhm nope.. not even close.
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Although, I must say that I prefer to use specific overdrive pedals which produce specifics gain tones, tailored to my tonal preference. And, I can EQ them. So, no real foul here…for me. I’d add that I’d personally not buy an amp based on the onboard reverb tones, either. IMHO that’s something that can be improved with pedals…like overdrives. To be fair…I’m not sure I’d ever use the onboard gain channel on this amp, even if there was an EQ on that channel. Then again…who knows, lol.
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Set the gain to a moderate setting, set the gain channel volume as a boost over the clean channel. When using those OD pedals for Rtyhm, you hit that gain channel for leads and you can get literally ANYWHERE you need to go for a boost volume. so for that single aspect, yep! Gain channel works just fine..
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