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Sharing video on Youtube or Facebook
I've been working on some video projects lately, wanting to post some clips on Youtube or Facebook. I'm using iMovie to edit my video content from recordings off my iPad and then exporting from iMovie to Youtube or Facebook.
Q: So I was wondering what it the best export settings from iMovie to distribute content to either place? I think both Youtube and Facebook tend to crush the audio. Maybe there is a better way to go about this?
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I export to a file and then upload. They're going to have their way with it, regardless.
If I upload a 1080p/60 video to YT that's over 300MB (maybe 400), then after it's done processing, there's a download option. Last one I did gave me a back a 60MB 720p file. So, yeah, a little bit of crushing going on. I'm not convinced that using iMovie's option (i.e., share direct to YT/FB) saves you their "processing" so figure it's better to start with what you think is a good/best render you can, and then you have that to compare to.
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Just make your best mix and export your iMovie video as File. Things change from time to time, but audio-wise, currently Youtube will give you pretty back pretty much what you put in, while Facebook (if you upload directly to FB), will make it brighter, louder, more compressed, and quite possibly out of sync. So I'd go to Youtube only, and link to YT on your FB page. All you have to do is include the url in your FB post, and FB will automatically put it in a neat little box with the YT thumbnail in it.
And speaking of thumbnails, FB will shave off the top and bottom of it, so when you create your YT thumbnail image (which you DO want to), take the FB cropping into account. Last edited by Brent Hahn; 10-18-2020 at 11:16 AM. |
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If I am not mistaken I believe currently Youtube streams at 128 bit ACC for the audio for streaming
SO: As Brent said, best bet is to make the highest quality audio file you can ( presumably a 24 bit 48hz sample rate WAV file) to import into you video editor program. And the upload to Youtube@ at least 720 if not 1080 Now I know Youtube offers a Premium Subscription plan which lets you personally stream at 256 ACC to listen to.... BUT how that relates to what others who may be non subscribers will hear, I don't know but suspect it will still be 128 bit ACC
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The only way i know to avoid a big crush is to master the music to the levels each site wants. The problem is those levels aren't written in stone and each site has it's own target level, so a single master isn't going to cover all sites and what may be perfect on a particular site today, may get adjusted tomorrow if they decide to change their target number. There are many schools of thought on this but I think the most accepted solution is that for music going up on social media sites, master to about -14 LUFS and let each site do what they're going to do. If you want to get a sense of what some of the sites will do to your file, you can test it on this site and it will tell you: Loudness Penalty Analyzer
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YouTube has a standard, presumably -14dB LUFS for loudness, but I think they don't do a lot of up-leveling, though I tend to stick to the -14 to -15 range. I assume they will limit if you exceed -14, but I've not tested that.
I've attached a couple screenshots of the video file properties and show the sizes of the original of a file and the YT download. The interesting thing, besides the stunning crunch of file size (my videos, unfortunately or fortunately, do not suffer greatly from this ), is that they resampled the audio from 48kHz to 44.1kHz. YT did not change the integrated LUFS. (I was wrong about this being 1080p/60!)
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Upload a loud file to Facebook, on the other hand, and you'll hear something that sounds more like, well, a compressor compressing. Seems like they've made it less subtle just lately. |
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I don't know that this file is the same thing that is streamed, but I assumed it was - at least at the resolution in the file. They may (likely?) have more than one version cached for different playback resolutions, but they also probably have enough computer power to downres some things on the fly.
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I'm guessing there's some tool that will tell you what's really being streamed, just haven't found one yet.
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P.S. I checked a video I uploaded at 720p - upload size was 199.9MB, download size 60.9MB. It shows the same sample rate downres.
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Youtube: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StevenWagne...57766491147218 To me, the Youtube version sounds very much like the source. And it's in sync. The "featured artiste" prefers the sound of the FB version, and must not care about sync. |
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The FB version is significantly louder. That will account for preference most of the time.
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Here's the video I recently posted over in show and tell on facebook. I don't see any sync issues and the sound seems fine (tho neither facebook nor you tube sound as good as the original). https://www.facebook.com/doug.young....58987648177193 Are you seeing issues I am missing? (BTW, I targeted -14-15 LUFS on both on this)
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