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Old 03-05-2022, 07:49 AM
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So if we write 'micked', the double consonant will shorten the 'i' like the name 'Mick'. I guess we'd have to spell it 'miked' to retain the diphthong on the 'i' and keep the root pronunciation of 'microphone'.
But then one might conclude that Mike has a very unique guitar style

I think the assumption that correct grammar/spelling the only path to accurate communication can sometimes miss the mark. Call me simplistic but I think clear communication is the important factor, and correct grammar and spelling etc. are fine but secondary .. Juss' sayin'.
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Old 03-05-2022, 09:05 AM
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So, how on earth is one meant to explain ‘diphthong’, where the vowel is followed by no less than *four* consonants?
It follows the rule. A single vowel followed by multiple consonants will mean the vowel is shortened. That's the case with the word 'diphthong.' No way would any pronounce it 'die-fthong.' The 'di' is pronounced like the one in 'dinner,' not the one in 'diner.'
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Call me simplistic but I think clear communication is the important factor, and correct grammar and spelling etc. are fine but secondary .. Juss' sayin'.
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I think the assumption that correct grammar/spelling the only path to accurate communication can sometimes miss the mark. Call me simplistic but I think clear communication is the important factor, and correct grammar and spelling etc. are fine but secondary .. Juss' sayin'.
But that's just it. If you don't use correct grammar and spelling you put the burden on the listener/reader to have to interpret what you meant to communicate.
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It follows the rule. A single vowel followed by multiple consonants will mean the vowel is shortened. That's the case with the word 'diphthong.' No way would any pronounce it 'die-fthong.' The 'di' is pronounced like the one in 'dinner,' not the one in 'diner.'
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But that's just it. If you don't use correct grammar and spelling you put the burden on the listener/reader to have to interpret what you meant to communicate.

Not always , if extreme well then certainly yes ,,,, but it totally depends on the specific context . I am not saying bad grammar and spelling cannot be confusing
I am saying is that strictly correct grammar/spelling is NOT the only path or an absolute prerequisite to accurate communication

How much burden are things like
"Dude how rad" --- or--- "Tic toc lets us get gone"--- to actually understand ?

Or
"It deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe". ---------I'm no linguistic scholar but I can understand this pretty easily of course YMMV
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Old 03-05-2022, 11:54 AM
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My sister has a Ph.D in American Lit and has a mug that says :

"I before E - unless you leisurely deceive eight overweight heirs to forfeit their sovereign conceits"

Not an instance of words having different meanings, but the incredibly inconsistent "rules" that comprise the English language
I bet I could guess how she feels about slangy double-negatives ("I ain't got nothing no more").

I still clutch my chest when hear "irregardless" ... which somehow elbowed it's way into the dictionary some time back... with a definition meaning "regardless".
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“After taking a long nap I took a shower, and realized I was late so I leaped into my car, hit the gas, and flew down the road.”
In reality, I did none of those things. I slept for a long time, showered, sat down in my car, press the accelerator pedal, and drove really fast.
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….and not just any creek!!??…
As in my variation/translation for the vocabulary-enabled:

"Up the defecatory tributary without sufficient means of locomotion."

Not a potable water situation, certainly, but that version does sort of trip off the tongue. And then there's this similar one:

"When the bodily waste strikes the rotary ventilator."

Or in another vein, years ago I once worked in hospital with very British vocabulary South Asian interns and residents, and some patients who spoke colloquial southern U.S. speech.

Patient: "Falling out spells."

Translation to doctor: "Episodes of syncope."
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Inflammable and flammable mean the same thing.
Huh?
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When I was a kid, many, many years ago, all the gas tanker trucks said "Inflammable"...

Apparently, there were so many people who thought that word meant that it wouldn't burn or explode, etc. that the powers that be switched the wording to "Flammable."
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Inflammable and flammable mean the same thing.
Huh?
Yea, it's a headscratcher considering that some other words with the prefix 'in' are opposites, such as inconsequential and consequential. The 'in' prefix can be used in both situations.
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“After taking a long nap I took a shower, and realized I was late so I leaped into my car, hit the gas, and flew down the road.”
In reality, I did none of those things. I slept for a long time, showered, sat down in my car, press the accelerator pedal, and drove really fast.
"...found my coat and grabbed my hat... made the bus in seconds flat.."
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"...found my coat and grabbed my hat... made the bus in seconds flat.."
And speaking of busses
When the plane reaches the terminal the passengers "deplane"
When the school bus reaches the school, the kids don't debus, they just "get off"
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