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Old 03-04-2022, 12:10 PM
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This is why I usually don’t say nuthin’ to nobody, no how, no wheres, no way. Usually. But I still get in trouble. While up from NC and visiting some friends in NY I referred to a woman I’d been introduced to as “ma’am.” She was incensed.
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Old 03-04-2022, 02:28 PM
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How about the English pronunciation of the letter "Z"? In Canada, we say "zed", in the US "zee". 20 years ago I was working in the US and I told my friend "now control-zed to copy" and she looked at me dumbfounded. Took me a moment before I realized what the issue was.
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Old 03-04-2022, 03:21 PM
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How about the English pronunciation of the letter "Z"? In Canada, we say "zed", in the US "zee". 20 years ago I was working in the US and I told my friend "now control-zed to copy" and she looked at me dumbfounded. Took me a moment before I realized what the issue was.
I've thought long and hard about this. The problem is that 'Murr'cans is higorant!
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Old 03-04-2022, 03:42 PM
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My sister has a Ph.D in American Lit and has a mug that says :

"I before E - unless you leisurely deceive eight overweight heirs to forfeit their sovereign conceits"

Not an instance of words having different meanings, but the incredibly inconsistent "rules" that comprise the English language
German diphthongs are so much easier: their rule is that you only pronounce the second vowel.

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What (mildly) bugs me is the horrendous misspelling of 'relic' + 'ed' or 'ing'. English has a rule for this. With words like 'panic' or 'picnic' that have the hard 'c' sound as opposed to the one that sounds like an 's', as in 'ice,' we add a 'k' to them to retain that hard 'c'. Therefore, 'panic' + 'ed' becomes 'panicked' and 'picnic' + 'ing' becomes 'picnicking.' If the 'k' were not added, these words would logically be pronounced with the soft 's' like sound that 'c' sometimes has.

So why on earth do people spell 'relic' + 'ed' as 'reliced'?? It sounds as though someone has a mattress and is putting the bugs (the lice) back into it! "Hang on, I just need to re-lice this mattress!"
Interesting although it does not bother me
I mean personally it seems like "I like the sound of a micked guitar" just reads awkward compared to "I like a mic'ed guitar"
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Old 03-04-2022, 04:07 PM
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Interesting although it does not bother me
I mean personally it seems like "I like the sound of a micked guitar" just reads awkward compared to "I like a mic'ed guitar"
Since I have read that folks posting from certain types of smart phones have (apparently) automatic spelling correction, I figure that some of these errors are due to wrong guesses on the part of the software.

What I marvel at is how our brains quickly determine the error and determine what was intended so it usually doesn't interrupt the flow of the read.

On the other hand, seeing such errors in a published book seems wrong to me.

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German diphthongs are so much easier: their rule is that you only pronounce the second vowel.

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When you see a pretty woman and think, wow, she’s “easy on the eyes”, or, a “sight for sore eyes”.
Another one: my aunt used to call me a “tall drink of water” because I was a tall thin teenager after my growth spurt.
Living where I did growing up, we had a lot of these, being close to Boston.
A liquor store was called a “packy”. (think package store)
“Wicked pissa” meant something was great or awesome.
Now, where did I put my “kah” keys?!
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Old 03-04-2022, 05:39 PM
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Interesting although it does not bother me
I mean personally it seems like "I like the sound of a micked guitar" just reads awkward compared to "I like a mic'ed guitar"
You raise another issue there. In English spelling, when a vowel is followed by two consonants, its sound is typically (not always) shortened. When it is followed by one consonant and another vowel, it is usually (not always) either lengthened or turned into a diphthong.

Some examples:

sitting (vowel followed by two 't' consonants - short 'i' sound)
citing (vowel followed by one consonant and another vowel - diphthong /ai/)

dollar (vowel followed by two 'l' consonants - short 'o' sound)
donor (vowel followed by one consonant and a vowel - diphthong /eu/

So if we write 'micked', the double consonant will shorten the 'i' like the name 'Mick'. I guess we'd have to spell it 'miked' to retain the diphthong on the 'i' and keep the root pronunciation of 'microphone'.
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Old 03-04-2022, 07:18 PM
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Back in 2004-05, I was teaching 6-hour job-search seminars (with workbooks) to large groups of call-center employees facing a facility shutdown. It was the right thing for the company to do, as 500 of their employees would be jobless in a couple weeks.

Resorting to some canned material I had developed to keep things light, I shared one of my go-to anecdotes about the importance of using proper grammar in resumes, cover letters and interviews.

"Because hiring managers aren't impressed when applicants for public contact jobs don't know no better."

My pseudo-illiterate malingering had gone quite well with the preceding 4 groups. But in class #5, it went flat like a possum on a busy Interstate. Crickets chirping.

My cringing 2-second thought-process included:
- Fix it?
- Explain it?
- Chuckle like a pandering politician begging for some awkward response?
- Pretend it didn't happen and move on?

They were a tough group. I went with option 4. It was a long day.
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You raise another issue there. In English spelling, when a vowel is followed by two consonants, its sound is typically (not always) shortened. When it is followed by one consonant and another vowel, it is usually (not always) either lengthened or turned into a diphthong.
So, how on earth is one meant to explain ‘diphthong’, where the vowel is followed by no less than *four* consonants?
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How bout when you're in some difficulty, you are said to be: "up the creek without a paddle"!

….and not just any creek!!??…
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My wife and I grew up in different countries.
Once, early in our marriage, I came home upset about something.
I told her I was pisst. She asked, "what have you been drinking?"
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