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Old 09-06-2019, 11:40 PM
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Default Is This Rosewood, Pau Ferro, Jacaranda...?

(Up front, hope not to get into a discussion on Jacaranda being another name for Brazilian Rosewood, it's not BRZ.)

I picked up this classical K Yairi TC-1E (used) about 10 years during a trip to Tokyo. I'm looking for opinions on what you folks think the body wood is. At the time I was told "Jacaranda/Rosewood" by the retailer; but the fact they casually added "Rosewood" onto "Jacaranda" suggests they didn't really know for sure. Jacaranda is a term that seems loosely thrown around, although botanically true Jacaranda is Jacaranda mimosifolia.

There's certainly some great variation between even Dalbergia Rosewoods of the same species, but I had one guitar tech say it looks like Pau ferro, Bobgunnia fistuloides, to him. It does look -to me- like some Pau ferro bodies I've seen. Not a big deal but what do you think? Maybe it's just good ole EIR, but the grain has a hints of gold or amber lines that I haven't seen in other EIRs. Thanks.
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Old 09-07-2019, 12:03 AM
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Looks like "a Rosewood" to me. Unfortunately, there's no way to know what wood exactly without a DNA test. Now that it's a 10-year old guitar, does it really matter?
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Old 09-07-2019, 12:40 AM
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Japanese guitar shops seem to like using jaxaranda to refer to brw. The wood on this guitar looks like eirw to me but we need a timber expert or luthier to comment on this.
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Old 09-07-2019, 01:32 AM
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I’ve seen Indian rosewood that looks exactly like that. It’s a wood that can vary in appearance a great deal from one set to another.

As for “jacaranda,” that’s a term that I’ve seen used in other countries, but usually not in North America. It does seem to be a vague, catchall term that usually means “this is some kind of rosewood, maybe, but we’re not sure exactly what.”

I’m sure that some use the term and mean something very specific by it, but it definitely gets used in loose and inexact ways by others.


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Old 09-07-2019, 03:01 AM
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I looked at the pictures before I read the text, and said to myself, "That looks like a Yairi." Right I was.

You're right too, they did throw the term "jacaranda" around pretty casually. And they must have had a great big pile of it, because you see backs and sides with that pretty wide grain quite frequently from Alvarez-Yairi.

Beautiful guitar! Would you mind posting a pic of the front?
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Old 09-07-2019, 05:12 AM
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Looks like typical East Indian rosewood. It doesn't look like Pau ferro.

Jacaranda mimosifolia has stunning flowers and aroma.
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Looks like East Indian Rosewood to me.
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Jacaranda trees are very common in Southern California, with their distinct purple flowers in May and June. They are all over my neighborhood. But I've never heard of a guitar built of them.
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East Indian Rosewood
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For comparison, here is my 1981 Yamaha L-25A guitar that has Jacaranda back and sides.
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For comparison, here is my 1981 Yamaha L-25A guitar that has Jacaranda back and sides.
My 1981 Yamaha L-20A has a 3 piece back. The center wedge is said to be Jacaranda and looks a lot like the center wedge on your L-25A.
The outer 2 pieces are said to be EIR.
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Old 09-07-2019, 10:52 AM
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I looked at the pictures before I read the text, and said to myself, "That looks like a Yairi." Right I was.

You're right too, they did throw the term "jacaranda" around pretty casually. And they must have had a great big pile of it, because you see backs and sides with that pretty wide grain quite frequently from Alvarez-Yairi.

Beautiful guitar! Would you mind posting a pic of the front?
That's funny KenL. Here's the front. Pretty sure they used a toner on the top. Fairly basic classical. I was looking for a nylon string guitar at the time of my trip and I liked its tone (and the price was right). I knew "Kazou Yairi" labels were sorta rare in the US., and as a craft of JPN it's been a nice reminder of my trip there.

To All: Thanks for your responses, I think it's likely EIR as most have said..... just thought I'd ask.
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