Odd Studio Solutions

[DupleMeter]

Originally Posted by Bob Womack

I've long said that our best and hardest work was taking horrible tracks and making them marginally presentable. Polishing excellent audio is far easier.

Bob

Too true. And it's hard to get people excited about "marginally presentable".

[Ty Ford]

Originally Posted by Bob Womack

Thta was the basis of a form of analog single-ended noise reduction. In the film and video industry we would have the location audio guys record "room tone," the sound of the room with no-one talking. If we had problems with a background noise we'd create a loop of the room tone, lay it up with any periodic sounds in sync, reverse phase, and blend it in, cancelling the background to one degree or another

Bob

That works to a degree if the sounds are steady and persistent, sort of. I know folks who have recorded a second track in a location in hopes of inverting it to cancel out noise. It's an interesting thought, but practically speaking, it seldom does what you want without disturbing the sound you want to keep.

Room tone is a slight misnomer. I know you know this, Bob. Yeah, it's about the sound of the room based on where the mic is at the moment, but that usually changes when you move the mic to another place in a room. Room tone is more about getting the mic selfnoise and preamp sound so you can paste room tone into the holes created during the postproduction process. Unless you do that, or cover the holes with music or sound effects, the abrupt changes from the boom or wireless to digital zero in the gaps is too noticeable.

[Brent Hahn]

Originally Posted by Ty Ford

... it's about the sound of the room based on where the mic is at the moment, but that usually changes when you move the mic to another place in a room.

It also changes when you remove the actors who were near the mic.

I've gotten the cancellation thing to help somewhat a couple times on a steady-state hum like fluorescent lights or a fridge, but that was with sample-level nudging. No luck on anything else that I can recall.

[DupleMeter]

Originally Posted by Brent Hahn

It also changes when you remove the actors who were near the mic.

I've gotten the cancellation thing to help somewhat a couple times on a steady-state hum like fluorescent lights or a fridge, but that was with sample-level nudging. No luck on anything else that I can recall.

Yeah. I’ve made that work once or twice, but it’s never ideal. These days I rely on iZotope RX. It’s not cheap, but if audio is your job it pays for itself fast.

[Ty Ford]

The CEDAR DNS-2 is the killer box for that.


https://tyfordaudiovideo.blogspot.co...log-noise.html

Regards,

Ty Ford

[DupleMeter]

Originally Posted by Ty Ford

The CEDAR DNS-2 is the killer box for that.





https://tyfordaudiovideo.blogspot.co...log-noise.html



Regards,



Ty Ford

That looks nice. Does it also do the spectral repair stuff that RX does?

[Bob Womack]

The Cedar units we use in the TV studios at our complex are band-based units. They are quite good for fixed installations and take much of the room and camera-fan racket out. I think a sample-based system like iZotope or RX might do a better job but might not be as consistent about it, if you know what I mean.

Bob

[Nymuso]

In the late 70's I in a studio with a rock band recording a demo, and we needed a tambourine for a track. No one had brought the tambourine. So I went into a vocal booth and took out my set of keys and figured out how, with shaking and muting, to make them sound like a tambourine. Worked well.

[jim1960]

Originally Posted by Nymuso

In the late 70's I in a studio with a rock band recording a demo, and we needed a tambourine for a track. No one had brought the tambourine. So I went into a vocal booth and took out my set of keys and figured out how, with shaking and muting, to make them sound like a tambourine. Worked well.

Now there's a good argument for this place getting a "like" button.

[midwinter]