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10-15-2014, 08:58 PM
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I want to make my "Nebraska" album..
I'm trying to create my "Nebraska" album with acoustic guitar, vocals, and possibly some melodic piano.
I'm very overwhelmed by the amount of choices so I called my "Sales Engineer" today for some advice. While I do feel that he gives good advice he is a commissioned sales person so that needs to be taken with a grain with a salt. I'm using a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2. He recommended that I get a large condenser microphone for the vocals, a stereo pair of small condensers for the acoustic guitar and think about upgrading the Focusrite to an Apogee or Apollo Twin. I told him that my budget was around $1000 for everything and here were his recommendations: Large Condenser microphone: 1) RODE NT1 Kit 2) SE 2220a Small Condenser microphone (pair): 1) SE5P 2) Rode NT5 (said these were harsh sounding and more of a last resort) Interface: Apogee One What do you guys think of this advice? Do I buy both SE products? I'd say that's what I'm leaning towards. What advice would you give? I'm tempted to just buy one decent large condensor for $500 and be done
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10-15-2014, 09:03 PM
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My advice is to do some more research. You could start with reading through the many prior threads on this forum which go over these topics in detail.
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10-15-2014, 11:22 PM
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You can't use a pair of mics with the Apogee One interface so that's not the right choice!
Here let me do the work for you!!! In the spirit of Nebraska I would get... A porta style recorder like a Zoom R8. For mics, a CAD E100s and (2) CAD E70 pencil condensors. A good set of flat freq response headphones like the AKG K240 A good boom stand A pop filter 2 microphone cables. Here's how to get that within your budget! Get both these items for your mic needs, it will include 1 E100s and two CAD E70 mics, 2 cables, pop filter... http://www.frontendaudio.com/CAD-E10...99-06933-2.htm http://www.frontendaudio.com/SearchR...Search=CAD+E70 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- And get a pair of these headphones to monitor with... http://www.amazon.com/AKG-240-Semi-O.../dp/B0001ARCFA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quality Boom Mic Stand http://www.frontendaudio.com/K-M-KM2...ack-p/8458.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------- $299 for the R8 Zoom Recorder $399 for the CAD mic pac (E100s, 2 mic cables, pop filter) $120 for the additional CAD E70 $65 for the AKG K240 headphones $89 for the K&M boom stand Total price $974 (with money left over for a 32G SD Card (max Memory on the R8) AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE RECORDING YOUR KITCHEN TABLE MASTERPIECE "NEBRASKA" STYLE, EDIT EVERYTHING YOU RECORD ON A COMPUTER!!! Last edited by rockabilly69; 10-15-2014 at 11:35 PM.
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10-16-2014, 02:03 AM
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I agree with the choice of a stand alone recorder... the spirit of nebraska is no DAW, no pitch correction, no editing to a grid, no tempo maps, etc.
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10-16-2014, 07:58 AM
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Since you already have an audio interface (it'll work fine for your use), cross that off your list. And I assume you are already familiar wiht a DAW - no reason to backtrack to a stand-alone recorder. DAWs are much more flexible.
What do you have now for microphones? Monitors? Headphones?
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10-16-2014, 09:08 AM
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10-16-2014, 09:39 AM
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I'd say buy a pair of ADK A6 mics for guitar. The A6 is a medium diameter condenser, and may work fine for your vocal mic; try it and see before you buy something else such as a LDC for vocals.
Front End Audio sometimes has deals on these, but right now doesn't seem to. I got mine from Anthem-Audio (eBay store) a while back and they have a nice price now. For the $229 package you get the mic, shock mount, cable, pop-filter, nice metal case; $458 for 2 packages (I'd contact them and ask for a deal if you buy two). They are also selling the mic, rigid mount, wood case for $169; you don't get the cable, shock mount, pop filter, or metal case at this price. I would use the Focusrite interface you already have. The rest of your budget could get used on a vocal mic if the A6 doesn't work for you. If you don't need to buy a different mic for vocals you could consider using around $400 for a pair of Equator D5 monitors.
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10-16-2014, 10:13 AM
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 here's the rundown for people that want to know... http://brucebase.wikispaces.com/Nebr...tudio+Sessions
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10-16-2014, 10:51 AM
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I love Nebraska for sure but it was never intended as an anti-technology project/statement. Over the years it seems to have taken on a romantic notion somewhat removed from the intent.
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10-16-2014, 11:50 AM
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No one said it was anti anything, I just said in the original spirit the OP could just use a standalone porta-studio like Bruce did. And Bruce's original spirit was to get some songs written and have a good way to present them to the E-Street band. Whether he intended it or not, having a little rig like that perhaps limited the choices Bruce could make so he could focus on writing and getting the idea down. Presenting demos was the intent for sure, but the romantic notion of a simple recording setup that he inspired went on to work for many others in the indie word. That crazy echo tone and distortion on the mix had a lot to do with why that record went over so well. They fit the starkness of the subject matter in those songs. And that sound went on to inspire many younger bands. For good reason, just listen to the Born In The USA version of "Working On The Highway" it sounds lame in comparison to the Nebraska tracks. Maybe he didn't intend it, but he showed people what could be done with a simple recording rig and some imagination.
http://youtu.be/0QbReXuCR6U
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