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Old 01-23-2020, 10:47 AM
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Here is a neat little demo video comparing the Santa Cruz OM Grand with a Collings Deep Body OM.
I'm not sure this is a fair comparison since the Santa Cruz and Collings voicings are totally different. Santa Cruz OM/OM Grand combine a blend of vintage+modern voicing, vs Collings which is piano-like modern.
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Old 01-23-2020, 11:15 AM
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FWIW here is another video comparison. Put on some headphones and close your eyes. It’s still not like playing them though.

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thanks. martin m36 could be an other option but neck too narrow.
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thanks. martin m36 could be an other option but neck too narrow.also in this video m36 sounds like more compressed and woody, santa cruz more open, "shimmer", reverb and sustain, something like an om28 vs om42
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thanks. martin m36 could be an other option but neck too narrow.
The current (reimagined) M36 is a 1.75 - as is the OM Grand I believe - though I prefer 1 13/16ths and have that on 2 of my guitars.
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SC OMG - just listening to the videos above, the tone, balance, and presence of the SC is very clear - they just sound more “musical” - I also prefer the 1-13/16” nut, which SCGC does well, but I have been very happy with their 1-¾” mod V neck too - if I didn’t already have koa and braz SC OMs, an OMG would be high on my shopping list -
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SC OMG - just listening to the videos above, the tone, balance, and presence of the SC is very clear - they just sound more “musical” - I also prefer the 1-13/16” nut, which SCGC does well, but I have been very happy with their 1-¾” mod V neck too - if I didn’t already have koa and braz SC OMs, an OMG would be high on my shopping list -
That was my opinion too Tad.
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Here is a neat little demo video comparing the Santa Cruz OM Grand with a Collings Deep Body OM.

I find it revealing about the differences between the OM deeper body design vs. the larger lower bought design.

Wow! To me, the Collings deep body throws out a wall of sound that almost sounds amplified compared to the Santa Cruz Grand.

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Old 01-24-2020, 12:18 PM
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And for many, volume is all that’s important -
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And for many, volume is all that’s important -
If you are snidely referring to me, I did not say volume is all that's important. And we all have preferences and opinions, just as you do.
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I own 3 Collings (2 OM & C100) and 2 SCGC (OM & OMG) and while I could never deny the power and complexity of the Collings tone, I enjoy both brands a whole lot. Both are great builds with very different tonal presentations. That’s an aspect I appreciate.
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If you are snidely referring to me, I did not say volume is all that's important. And we all have preferences and opinions, just as you do.
Sorry - didn’t mean to imply anything about your choices or preferences, only that many players (and some reviewers) judge solely on volume, and some (many?) builders build to that desire, or at least, make volume more important than any other quality -

The Collings just tend to not sound as “musical” to me - bright and loud, absolutely, and those can be important characteristics and quite appealing in many situations - but balanced and musical, I look elsewhere -

Whatever appeals to you - buy it! That’s all I do -
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The OMG ships with SCGC low tension strings. The one in the video may be strung with those strings. Put on the mid tensions, or regular 13's, and it puts out more volume, or mine does anyway.

That said, it sounds and plays great with the low tension strings. I may go back. And forth.

Also, the Sound Pure guy is playing down by the bridge, which adds brightness. I would like to have seen that played over the sound hole, like the video in post #17.

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Sorry - didn’t mean to imply anything about your choices or preferences, only that many players (and some reviewers) judge solely on volume, and some (many?) builders build to that desire, or at least, make volume more important than any other quality -

The Collings just tend to not sound as “musical” to me - bright and loud, absolutely, and those can be important characteristics and quite appealing in many situations - but balanced and musical, I look elsewhere -

Whatever appeals to you - buy it! That’s all I do -
It's ok. I believe I understood the tone of your comment. But just to clarify my comment, I don't necessarily disagree with you. The only reason I mentioned hearing the difference in volume was because, to me, it seemed so significant. So significant that I chose to make a comment about it. I was not "judging" anything nor wanting to debate volume vs balanced and musical, or for that matter Collings vs Santa Cruz. I understand your connection and allegiance and I think that's great!

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