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Two earbuds - not necessarily these days. As to boosting the lows for 'limited playback systems' - umm ... you're boosting the lows on your mix, so now on a GOOD playback system the lows are too loud!
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My original question was aimed at stereo recording rather than several instruments, and perhaps voice, each recorded mono, and then panned around post recording. An interesting drift anyway.
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If you want instruments with lower frequencies to still be audible in smaller more limited systems the trick is to boost the harmonic frequencies as opposed to the fundamental. What I mean by this is, if you have a signal from an instrument like a double bass at about 40Hz that you want to sound good in a system that doesn't reproduce these frequencies you need to boost 80hz or 160hz or 320hz a bit ... not the 40Hz. The human ear has a surprising way of hearing these higher harmonics frequencies and 'filling in the blanks' in such a way that it thinks it is hearing the original (but missing) lower frequencies.
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So other than whatever the dynamic limitations the playback system might have and loosing the stereo width, it wouldn't seem that any other "compromise" would be in play would it?
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Why should anyone care about mono compatibility? I already know what your answer will be, but the question still stands.
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I suppose a DJ at a Club mixing Dance or Electronic tracks and such would be concerned about stereo mixes and how the Monitors are employed, how this may all translate to a "mono" scenario. But a Kid using just one earbud, or listening to music on his phone without buds or headphones. I don't think so. Not a valid argument there.
So many YT demo vids of products in use and the suggestion to listen to them on headphones or good monitors/speakers indicate many hope listeners will benefit not only one the quality of audio but in many cases a Stereo example of it. When I sent out a clip or song for those to audition they usually wait until they are capable of using some sort of Good system whatever that may be. As far as MP3's and CD's I am not in control of how and what they are listened to it on. However I will produce my music how I feel it sounds best. Period. In my case it is Stereo. I remember when we jumped up from 16 bit recording to 24 bit and with higher sampling rates. Perhaps compression has come a long ways but I am still not happy with mp3's although I use them in my iPod while walking or exercising and not for the quality of the recording experience. I know that is another matter but I just threw that one out there. Some interesting thoughts and realities discussed so far. I just don't feel I will put that much effort trying to sacrifice my sound so it sounds OK in mono. More important things to do with my time. But hey that is just my opinion that I am entitled to. Last edited by whitecloud; 05-19-2014 at 08:56 PM. Reason: misspelled |
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This SoS article sums it up quite nicely. I think the more interesting question is "Why should anyone NOT care about mono compatibility?"
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Wait..so you're mixing for the kid who has crappy ear-buds and only one of them in at that? That's a tough gig
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There's more than one of them out there.
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You have peaked my interest to back and listen to a bunch of my recording and see.
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I think he meant one earbud
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The other place that your music could be played in mono - through most PA systems, and bar/club speaker systems.
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