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That sums it up nicely for me as well. I enjoy the journey and I am not attracted to schemes like aging heat treatments or vibrating Tonerite gizmos hoping for something to happen. But I agree — Each to their own.
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Thanks for all the comments. It's amazing how quickly the responses came in.
In response to Wade's comments - On a side Off Topic note (given that I started this thread), I wonder if it is better to build a guitar that may sound a bit stiff/dead when new so that when it breaks in beautifully to an 'optimum' tone, whatever that may be, than to built a guitar more lightly so that it sounds absolutely amazing right off the bat, and then perhaps break in to being a bit more tubby. But again, this is probably grist for a new thread though I would guess that there is likely already threads on this. Thanks again all for your responses! |
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THERE IS one way a Tonerite can harm a guitar...
You must be careful not to let the power cord of the Tonerite touch the guitar's surface. The vibration of the cord will abrade whatever it touches if left there long enough. So just make sure the cord is pulled away from the guitar and it should be fine. Please note that some guitars really respond significantly to the Tonerite- others not so much. But I'm a fan of the device in general and bought my own after borrowing one for a month.
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I think anytime we hear a change...it can be labeled as good or bad. Where as in reality, it is just different.
I can understand if a luthier spends his life creating a certain sound, maybe Change is not something to be desired for himself? Sometimes it takes time to adapt to the change of sound? Meaning...we have to play-pluck-strum slightly differently than before. Recently I had a new nut put on. The Change was very pleasant. Yet, I also had to learn to play a little bit less hard and smoother. Took some getting use to. But I knew it was a direction that was for the better. Just had to get use to that change. Personally I have tone-righted Three Larrivee's. Two of which I heard a noticeable difference on for the better. One of which, not sure I heard much difference. Yet, it still took some time to get use to those differences. The changes were positive. Yet, I am afraid to do it to one of my guitars, because I very much love the sound of it the way it is. So I have been putting off Toneriting it. Yet you know how Curiousity goes? Will probably have to do it at some point.Ah.....you just can't win sometimes! |
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https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=548698 I also hang guitar from a cable tie that touches only the metal tuning posts. This way no body vibration could cause burnishing scars where the body touches a wall, stand. Hanging the guitar freely also permits unrestricted and undamped vibration of the entire guitar. 01.jpg 00.jpg Last edited by Tico; 09-03-2019 at 09:01 PM. |
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Apples and Oranges. Seems odd that of all the people who have used tonerite that only one person says there could be harm (and not even permanent). wouldn't you think by now there would be dozens of people, if not more, who have ruined their guitars? Personally I think it either helps or does nothing.
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He may be right. But I will say that fear is the most powerful human emotion. It's used by institutions, governments, and corporations (via advertising) to manipulate, control, and suck money out of us. One post that generates fear can outrank a zillion that generate comfort. Unfortunately, such is human frailty. Our only defense is to wake up, rise above, remain skeptical, and think critically and rationally. Last edited by Kerbie; 09-04-2019 at 06:51 AM. Reason: Fixed quote |
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Of course it is your choice. I was just trying to find out if your choice was based on facts or heresay. It appears it's the latter which, again, is your right.
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I missed this the first time I read your response, Paul. After I recommended using strings on the guitar that had already been played for awhile and were about ready to be replaced when putting a ToneRite on a guitar, Paul replied:
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Once you've completed a ToneRite session, the strings are going to sound dead, whether you started with fresh strings or those due to be replaced soon. So I really don't see what point there is to using new strings for this. It's not as though new strings are going to make the ToneRite work more effectively. Wade Hampton Miller |
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After reading Bruce's comments my reluctance to try the thing has now changed from 'maybe' to 'not in my lifetime!' The thought of my one and only good instrument being reduced to poor-sounding and 'floofy' is not encouraging, and I don't have the luxury of time to wait months for it to possibly 'recover', nor the £2300 to replace it should a Tonerite have a permanent detrimental effect. It sounds great as it is; if it never gets better than great I'll still be happy. If it does improve substantially I've saved myself both stress and the £200 or so cost of a Tonerite. Win-win.
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