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11-01-2009, 12:59 PM
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Aloha IPA - Wait 'n See on the Bagamp
Aloha IPA,
There usually is no advantage in the audio world to being the first kid on the block to buy a new model, of anything, when it first comes out. A good analogy is computer OS systems or DAW programs. They come out with a new version - like say the new Logic Pro 9 for Macs. Then they quickly make changes to fix the inherent, unforeseen bugs and incompatibilities. Logic Pro came out in September and already they have two made two new version changes to 9.0.2. With all the problems that Jack Campbell has had in getting his Bagamp to market, aren't you just a little bit cautious about being among the first to order one. I mean for example, couldn't Jack have hastily bought his chipset from the wrong Chinese factory just to get this thing off the ground? Remember, for all the talk, the BA is still not on ANY shelf, despite years of hype - especially recent hype and unmet promises, right? Larry Pattis' opinion about the Bagamp's sonic qualities here carries a lot of weight with us all. I'm sure it sounds good out of the box. But shouldn't you wait a see if Jack got it right enough to last awhile? I know I'd probably wait at least a year to buy a Bagamp. At least the other line arrays systems mentioned here have a track record from more reputable manufacturers with longer track records. That's the smart money IPA53, IMO. A Hui Hou! alohachris 
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11-02-2009, 06:33 AM
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#273
11-02-2009, 07:33 AM
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Fortunately, for the sake of progress, there are enough people willing to take a chance on something new, to encourage entrepreneurs and inventors to risk everything to bring new, innovative products to market.
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11-02-2009, 08:55 AM
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In addition to this, most problems on products of this physical size are fixed locally for less than the cost of round-trip shipping, which means a warranty is not always going to be used to fix some small problem that might arise. This is also true of the handcrafted guitar world, where I have simply paid out-of-pocket to have local work done on what would be "warranty" repairs. ...of course, you can (and should) always approach the manufacturer to cover this sort of out-of-pocket expense, when and where possible.
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#275
11-02-2009, 10:46 AM
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If I could trade the Bose Compact (which I've only had, what... 6 weeks or so) for a SoloAmp even over, I'd probably do it, but we all know that isn't how it goes. I'd have to pay some kind of boot, and I'm disinclined. Now if I could offer up the little Bose and an old Peavey Escort I have gathering dust in the closet even for an SA, that's another matter.
That said, it's not that I'm dissatisfied with the little Bose. It has great transparency of sound, that famous Bose dispersion, sets up in 30 seconds and is extremely lightweight and portable. And visually, it's a stunningly elegant little system that, as I mentioned, makes for a very cool presentation for swanky restaurant gigs. I've done a lot of dinner gigs over the years since I have a repertoire rich in classical, jazz and flamenco, perfect for background music. Dinner gigs tend to pay very well, and often offer the benefit of steady employment. I've played extended engagements at hotels, three nights a week for up to 3 1/2 years at a time. I've done resort gigs, 7-day/week cruise boat gigs, and have slummed many a night in Nevada casinos doing my "classy guitar" thing, and while it's not exactly ripping up the charts or furthering your career in other ways, it IS a steady, low-stress dollar, and I like that aspect of it. The little Bose Compact (along with my little Korg Pandora for sweetening) is in many ways an ideal solution for that kind of thing. It's just a bit weak in the midrange to my ear, as you have a nice low end with the built-in sub, and nice sparkle with the small line array, but not so much in the way of mid-size drivers for those mid frequencies. The lack of reverb and limited EQ and IO options is also an oversight by Bose, in my opinion... but also in keeping with their desire to sell you a T1 processor, which is an extremely powerful mixer module for a solo guitarist. What I've been using is a wireless on my guitar, the receiver of which I can sit right on top of the little Bose's cabinet. I sit the Korg on top of that, and then shoot directly into the Bose's instrument channel using short patch cables. The audience sees almost nothing except this very cool-looking, black tower squirting sound in all directions. By going wireless I can also leave my stool and stroll tables, which is great fun and really pulls people into what you're doing. I have nothing but good to say about Bose's larger L1 systems. They had to make some tough choices for the Compact. It's clearly designed for solo artists who need extreme portability and clear sound at relatively low volumes (200 watts only goes so far). It hits the mark very well... but could be improved upon. Like I said, I'll no doubt keep the Bose and eventually snag a SA to add to my options. I'll be in a better position then to really compare the two in detail. EDIT: Hey Larry, I visited your site and heard the clip of your tune, Bloomington. I'm assuming that refers to Bloomington, Indiana? I've been based here off and on since the mid-70s. Perhaps we met sometime?
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11-02-2009, 11:06 AM
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I don't know if we've met...could be possible, I suppose. At least two of my three CDs are at the Monroe County library on Kirkwood if you want to have a full-listen...
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#277
11-02-2009, 11:35 AM
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"My thing is, as portable as the L1 is, with 750 watts and 4-5 trips to the car, it's simply overkill for smaller solo gigs such as coffeehouses, small clubs, etc. It's also more than I need to be packing when I do a larger concert venue where I'm sitting in with several other players and would need to DI into a large house system, anyway."
I strongly suggest a Rock-n-roller cart to haul it in in one trip. I've been using mine for close to 10 years for all kinds of gigs. I bought it when I was in a wedding band and we had to cart our gear through kitchens, up tiny elevators etc....
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11-02-2009, 03:23 PM
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The idea here is that with the Bose Compact (or a SoloAmp would be the same deal), if all you need is a guitar and an amp, then you don't even need a handtruck to get it inside. I mean, my folding stool is now the biggest piece of gear I'm packing to these minimalist gigs. I like that.
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