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So in fairness, the Fishman Loudbox Artist brings a lot more to the table than the Loudbox Mini or Mini Charge. I just find the Mini charge sounds more natural and musical. I will be interested to hear how the OP likes the Artist.
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05-08-2021, 08:57 AM
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For six years I used the Loudbox Mini in the configuration described by the OP: I plugged my D-28 directly in, EQ'd it as a monitor, then ran it directly to the house. It was on a raised stand to my left, and I could hear it clearly. I really loved that little amp. Couple times a year it doubled as a PA for a small room, with guitar and microphone.
I use a Fishman 330x for guitar and vocals how. Fishman is just a great company.
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05-09-2021, 08:23 AM
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Yes if you go direct out to the PA, the amp is still working… My experience using small acoustic amps as direct box to the PA (about 20 years of use) is they are limited versus just running a small passive direct box ($30) at the end of the chain, where you send separate feeds to amp and house. The ¼" goes to the amp, and the XLR to the PA. Unless your amp allows a pass-through of the signal (without affecting it) buy a Direct Box and insert it right before the amp. This permits adjusting ANY/EVERY ASPECT of your stage amp independent from the PA. Nothing upsets sound techs like an artist changing something on stage that affects the house.
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05-18-2021, 07:58 AM
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I thought I would circle back after having the Artist for a couple rehearsals and one outdoor gig. In short, I am very pleased. It took some time to dial in the tone I wanted (like the sound of my Martin D-18, only louder). The EQ controls are very sensitive and need to be adjusted to match the volume and venue. I spent a lot of time playing the Martin on mute, then unmuting and adjusting EQ settings to find a "match." The end result was fantastic in rehearsal. At the gig, I ran an XLR out to the PA and had everything I wanted. Plenty of volume for me on stage, the sound guy was happy, the singer was happy. Everybody was happy. Greg is pleased...
Thank you for all your sage wisdom, experience, and input as it made for an easy decision for me. One thing I will add is that it takes time to get used to playing an acoustic amplified. Things I thought I did well did not always translate to the amplified signal. String noise, muted strings, clean, ringing notes etc required some effort from me to overcome deficiencies I didnt realize I had. I suppose the upside is that perhaps my unamplified playing may improve as well. Anyway, to summarize... Fishman Loudbox Artist = Great little amp with a lot of potential.
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05-18-2021, 11:39 AM
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Greg, if you have not done so already, read this thread for ideas from member noledog for Artist EQ settings:
https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/...d.php?t=557506 Cheers, _RP
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PS. Just realised you bought one! Glad you like it. 
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05-23-2021, 09:37 AM
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And for even more eye (ear?) opening, try recording yourself through the amp!
Doesn’t have to be fancy, just stick your phone across the room. Have fun, _RP
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05-23-2021, 10:05 PM
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I have both the Loudbox mini and a Marshall 50 watt acoustic amp. Can't remember the model at the moment. I like them both but the edge goes to the Marshall because, well, it's a Marshall.
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It all depends on what you expect as far as tone from an acoustic amp. If you want the tone to be as close as possible to sounding like a true acoustic gutiar, then in my opinion the Fishman, no matter how much you try to adjust the tone, is going not going to meet your needs. It won't even come close.
Then again, I'm as picky as they come... no pun intended.
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05-30-2021, 03:40 PM
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I think getting an acoustic amp that will do the job for you depends entirely on what your expectations are...if it’s purely for amplifying your guitar, you have a lot of options. If you want to run vocals through it too, you’re limited in terms of what will give you a great tone for both.
I’ve owned a lot of acoustic amps (Marshall AS50R, Carlsbro Sherwood, Laney Audiohub 100 Mk1, Laney Audiohub 200, Fishman Loudbox Performer X3, Fishman Loudbox Artist, Mesa/Boogie Rosette 110, Schertler Roy, AER Domino 3, AER Compact XL, Hughes & Kettner Era 2 and AER Compact 60/4). Out of all of those, the ones that have fully met my needs and that I have kept, have been the H&K and the Compact 60/4. Not perhaps coincidentally, both were expensive but relatively simply specced. A high quality, uncluttered workspace makes for good tone in my experience. The less fuss and features the better. All I want is clear, articulate guitar sound and defined vocal tone without ersatz coloration, and a splash of high quality reverb. I don’t need chorus, delay, flanger, phaser etc etc. Just the sound of a great guitar and vocal in a good room, but louder. Some of the amps I have owned weren’t loud enough, some didn’t sound good for my purpose, some had clipping issues and some (every Fishman Loudbox I owned) suffered speaker failure. My take would be to wait it out and save as much money as you can, and buy the very best amp you can afford. It’s a field in which you REALLY get what you pay for in every sense. If you can possibly save enough to buy an AER, chances are you will be totally satisfied in the long term. If not, try to seek out a Hughes & Kettner Era 1. I have the Era 2 which is the big brother, but the 1 is an outstanding amp in its own right. A different flavour to AER but very good nonetheless.
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