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Old 12-10-2004, 07:35 AM
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Default Well my ES system started sounding good, Details -->

I had some time this morning so I decided to reactivate my ES system and try to determine the problem with it.

I suspected a bad body sensor due to the distortion at any volume/signal level. When playing lightly there was little distortion, while playing with authority or strong phrases with 3-4 strings involved it sounded awful.
Almost like one sensor was out of phase with the other or rattling.

The fix, although probably temporary was this.

While trying to disable or reduce the effect of one sensor at a time, I moved a magnet over each sensor until I could locate them then held it over one at a time while heavily strumming the open strings.
After a while I noticed that it didn't sound distorted any more, so I started playing and it was as clean as I would expect it to be.
I recorded a song with it and it is clear, nothing like before.

I suspect that one sensor was stuck and not moving as it should and I somehow loosened it up. The 514-ces was a left over 2003 and could have been laying around for a long time.

You can also locate or test the sensors somewhat by taking an electronic watch and sliding over the top, with the volume turned up, you will hear the watch pulsing.
In my case all three of them are working.
Don't know if all three were working before, but the distortion is now gone !!!

I have moved the guitar all around shook it etc and the sensors are still sounding good.
Surprise.. Surprise.. Hope it stays that way.

A quick sound sample. Had some echo turned on. Should have cut that back a little for this demo.
http://home.fuse.net/pvee/capecodestst1.wma

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Old 12-10-2004, 08:23 AM
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Glad to hear that it has improved. I wouldn't have known enough about electronics to try what you did.
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Old 12-10-2004, 08:24 AM
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Interesting, I hope it stays that way for you. That was a very ingenious fix. BTW, when did Taylor "fix" the ES problems? I bought a 914-ces that was built in October 2003.
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:33 PM
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what was your signal chain for that recording? what are you using to get that echo? it sound great, a lot better than the ES just raw.

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Old 12-10-2004, 12:41 PM
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Just the guitar direct into the sound card.

Recorded with Cakewalk Guitar Tracks-2.
Echo added after recording with the Guitar Tracks program.
The Echo Wet mix was backed off to about 35% I think.

I compared it with a song recorded exactly the same way before the fix and the BEFORE song sounded pretty bad/distorted.
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Old 12-10-2004, 08:51 PM
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Thanks for this little tip, pvee. Good stuff, as always!!
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Old 12-11-2004, 07:08 AM
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Quote:
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Just the guitar direct into the sound card.

Recorded with Cakewalk Guitar Tracks-2.
Echo added after recording with the Guitar Tracks program.
The Echo Wet mix was backed off to about 35% I think.

I compared it with a song recorded exactly the same way before the fix and the BEFORE song sounded pretty bad/distorted.
i have that same program. i like it very much. i have an m-audio mobilepre usb preamp/external soundcard, so i can record using the XLR cable. that sounds good - highly recommend it!

thanks for the tip on the echo. i'll play with it.

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Old 03-16-2005, 03:20 PM
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Old 03-16-2005, 10:36 PM
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Wow - sounds like a jazz electric with a bit of treble turned up.
Not sure if that's a good thing or not...
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Old 03-16-2005, 10:51 PM
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However, I really like that chord melody! Never thought I'd ever download a clip from some random dude on the internet that I'd leave playing in my room as background music. Do you have any training?
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Old 03-17-2005, 05:10 AM
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Only training I have is the school of hard knocks.!!
I played in bands in the 60's and 70's.

Didn't play much after that until about seven years ago when I started hanging around the thumb picking crowd and attending CAAS and now I am back to playing solo and with a partner for coffee shop and restaurant gigs.

I always liked that song, "Ol Cape Cod".

First heard it when I was in Electronics school in Biloxi, Ms.
Then I got transferred to Otis AFB in Cape Cod. Met my wife there and still married 44 years later.

I have a version of that song played by Richard Smith that is awesome and that's how I noticed it again and started playing it.
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