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I suppose that it is the way my brain works! I don't personally have a need to know the note names at present, so they are of no real interest to me. I do understand and can hear intervals however, so that's sort of how I feel the fretboard under my fingers. If you sing me a phrase, I'll play it. And I can usually hear the mode a tune is being played in (Ionian, Mixolidian, Aeolian, Dorian). And I can most usually find the chord progression by ear. At least for the bluegrass and old time music genera that I play. I'm sure that if I wanted to learn to be a jazz guitarists then I'd probably adopt a similar approach. I'd start by listening to loads and loads of the music, then learn some of the fundamental movable chord shapes and rhythmic styles (as those are the two aspects that jump out at me when I watch a jazz guitar player), then just dive straight in. If I felt that it was essential for some reason to know the name of every note on the fretboard in standard tuning to play jazz then I would learn that - I can't see it taking long. But I can't actually see a reason to do it either, at the moment! For me, a lot depends on the language other musicians are using. So, in old time, the tradition is aural. I was introduced to and learnt the tunes by ear. All those tunes in the Cader Idris Sessions in my signature bellow I learnt by ear. In bluegrass, the tradition is to call tunes in the Nashville system, so I learnt that. In a Welsh MVC, the tradition is to read SMN on a four part score, so I learnt that. Although I actually follow the intervals off the music when I sing and not the note names. When I look at a piece of music I hear the tune, I couldn't actually tell you the note names without sitting down and working it out - because, so far, I really haven't needed to know!
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I'm learning to flatpick and fingerpick guitar to accompany songs. I've played and studied traditional noter/drone mountain dulcimer for many years. And I used to play dobro in a bluegrass band. Last edited by Robin, Wales; 05-18-2022 at 07:26 AM. |
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I've been playing the guitar for around 50 years most of that time rather poorly I might add but anyway I thought I'd start a thread to maybe help out someone just beginning. Despite my good intentions the thread turns into another 'pissing match'. I've got to find a better way to spend my time.
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Guitar learning is such a complicated thing because there are so many different well-established traditions that approach it from completely different angles -- so a certain amount of "why would you even want to do that?" reaction is perhaps instinctive from those steeped in tradition D when presented with someone trying tradition 4... I have background on other instruments (piano, various brass) and of working from standard notation on those, so for me "learning the notes" is one of the things I have focused on so far in my pathway into guitar. I'd eventually like to be able to pick up sheet music and sight-read it on guitar like I can on other instruments, so for me "building up" from a notes foundation is important At least for me the two exercises described in https://guitargearfinder.com/lessons...the-fretboard/ have been pretty effective. The "one string at a time, natural notes only" exercise has especially helped me with trying to understand the layout of the fretboard |
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You want to learn the neck of the guitar? Learn Segovia's scales.
It's not easy but it will take your knowledge up a notch or two. It literally took me a year to get them down from memory and then you branch out from there. It's also interesting delving into how he was thinking when he created the structures and why he laid them out the way he did. I should have done it years ago. why2
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