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The more sturdy the built the better it can handle variations in temperature and humidity. Not so much for better tonal quality though.
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Do some guitars survive through humidity issues better than others?
I got my daughter a Martin HPL ‘“x” guitar years ago, and I think it is close to impervious to humidity. I will have to play it next time I visit. I am impressed with the laminated neck...looks really solid.
And what about carbon-fiber if you are worried about humidity.? Humidity is a nuisance that almost drives me to carbon-fiber. |
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So many other factors determine overall tone. If a guitar has nothing else going for it other than a neck I suppose yer right ;-0
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Agree in general principle. Someone like E Somogyi would describe almost all guitars being overbuilt except for his own creations, (he’s just that kind of guy), but his specialty in construction is for light fingerstyle. Much is made of high performance acoustic guitars on the forum but far down the price scale one can find individual one-off instruments in a model line that are sensitive to the touch and easy to control and without volume to fill a 600 seat theatre without amplification (for couch noodling instead).
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To answer your question, yes.
I had two Waterloo guitars made exactly the same except for the finish. One reacted to the changes of the RH much more than the other.
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As I said before, the 'guitar A' I mention is a Yamaha LS 16 ARE. In fact, I've owned a Yamaha LS 6 (pre-ARE) as well as two Yamaha A series guitars and none has humidity related issues. I agree that Yamahas are built slighly heavily on purpose to survive the variations of humidity around the world. I may as well mention that other than the 5 ply neck, there is also a piece of wood block underneath the fretboard extension to make it stronger (strange that my Recording King guitar has the same thing). My AC3M does buzz when I play the high e string on higher frets but my luthier says it is due to the low action. However, the 5/64 action (low E 12th fret) on my LS 16 ARE is free from any buzz, which is amazing given that the humidity in my place is quite low throughout the year. Regarding the sound, I might be biased. When I blind test my Yamaha L series guitars, I cannot tell the difference between them and guitars that are 2x or 3x expensive but if I just normally play the guitar I actually feel the sound is a bit bland, but that's very subjective. |
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My cheap guitars (sub $500) were awful at maintaining good setups.
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Of note, Yamaha LL26 and above are quite a bit more lightly built compared to Yamaha units below that level. How good of a thing that is will probably be commensurate with how stable your humidity and temperature management skills are
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Sure, I'm not saying all cheap guitars hold themselves together better through low humidity. I've seen different results from different brands of guitars. I wouldn't name those guitars but I would say they can be good textbooks to demonstrate how an acoustic acts in low humidity. Yamahas might be an exception. |
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I have a 1967 Martin D-35 purchased in 1969 new. We lived in Idaho Falls, ID for 10 months, through a super cold winter with temperatures as low as -22°F and summer temperatures well above 100°F. The humidity out in Idaho Falls was extremely low, around 20% RH much of the time, and my D-35 never got a crack anywhere.
In those days I had no idea about the need for humidification. I was just extremely lucky. A D-35 has light, quarter-inch bracing. This model has Brazilian rosewood back and sides and a sitka spruce top. But the grain on this wood is fairly close grained and fairly straight, which may have saved me. Also, the guitar was not new when we lived there in 1975, so it had probably had a chance to make a lot of internal adjustments that kept the residual stresses from causing a crack. As dreadnoughts go, this guitar is pretty flexible, not stiff, and makes a great fingerstyle guitar, which is how I have always played it. This is not a heavily braced guitar. I think sometimes dumb luck plays a part, sometimes the quality of the wood has a big impact. To this day, there are no cracks in this guitar anywhere. I feel incredibly lucky! - Glenn
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It's very nice that you took a look at my YouTube channel! - Glenn
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Either way the 36 is an absolute beauty; I'm sure you'll love it.
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It’s a lot of cash to take a chance with but sometimes you gotta go with your instincts. I’ve never been one to follow the herd. I like things that are a little less common. I won’t be having 15 guitars like some folks around here so I had to choose wisely. I’m pretty sure I did, but time will tell I guess.
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