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Old 10-10-2019, 09:10 AM
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Looks great. I still prefer a QSC K8.2 for serious gigs but this JBL is one step closer than the S1 Pro (on paper).
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:21 AM
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Also right now, there is no way to identify a Bose S1 pro unit that has the draining battery desease...

Bose S1 pro draining when not in use thread

I almost pulled the trigger for a S1 but this problem annoyed me too much. In Europe, the BOSE customer support might not be as reactive as in the US.

I don't say JBL is more reliable. Everyone remembers the first JBL eon one units heating problem.
The battery drain problem was fixed last year. I had one that did it and Bose sent me a brand new S1. Customer service is above a beyond good.
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Old 10-10-2019, 10:09 AM
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The battery drain problem was fixed last year. I had one that did it and Bose sent me a brand new S1. Customer service is above a beyond good.
On the Bose forum, I asked people who experienced this problem to give the year of manufacture of their unit (8th digit of the serial number)

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Two units here. Both show the discharge issue. 2019, and 2018. The 2018 unit also won't show a completed charge at the flashing blue light on the unit until it's disconnected, turned on, shut off, back on charge and then it will stop flashing.
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Hi Cuki79, DavidE2, Yendor and everyone else

Thanks for the effort to help. We'd like to save people the time and trouble doing this unnecessarily.

Knowing the date of manufacture isn't useful for identifying S1 Pro units with the issue.

ST
They might have a batch of bad components that were mixed with good ones... therefore the randomness.

Again I am not bashing Bose, but it is one of the main reason I was waiting. Was your Bose S1 replaced in Europe or the US?
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Old 10-10-2019, 12:28 PM
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The battery drain problem was fixed last year. I had one that did it and Bose sent me a brand new S1. Customer service is above a beyond good.

Sorry, but this isn't entirely accurate. Bose may have a solution at the company level, but they have not yet sorted how to promulgate it for all of us who are affected; they've asked owners to subscribe to the thread until a fix is pushed out.
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:47 PM
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Another unusual feature for acoustic amp/PA: Hi-Z input.
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:31 PM
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Sorry, but this isn't entirely accurate. Bose may have a solution at the company level, but they have not yet sorted how to promulgate it for all of us who are affected; they've asked owners to subscribe to the thread until a fix is pushed out.
Mine was replaced a year later; I bought mine in 2018 and was replaced in 2019 and no drain issue. I read all seven pages and found some to have operator error. If you leave the Bluetooth on while turned to off, the battery will drain. If you leave it on while not using it, it will drain. While in the S1 backpack, the S1 can be switched on and drain. Basically, accidental turning on will drain it. The S1 also discharges normally while in use. I gleaned this out of 7 pages.
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Old 10-10-2019, 03:06 PM
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Mine was replaced a year later; I bought mine in 2018 and was replaced in 2019 and no drain issue. I read all seven pages and found some to have operator error. If you leave the Bluetooth on while turned to off, the battery will drain. If you leave it on while not using it, it will drain. While in the S1 backpack, the S1 can be switched on and drain. Basically, accidental turning on will drain it. The S1 also discharges normally while in use. I gleaned this out of 7 pages.
I think you should post that in the bose pro forum. Quickly checking, I could not find that excplicitly in a post. I am sure it would help many people.
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Old 10-11-2019, 03:10 PM
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Uauu good news this autumn for those looking for a compact busking system!
More info about size and wattage here:
https://www.gear4music.it/it/PA-DJ-e...A-Speaker/34QH

Then should arrive soon the new EAE P2-8 100W compact system from Elite Acoustics, another interesting one considering the excellent sound quality of EAE speakers, see https://www.eliteacoustics.com/portf...nd-bluetooth/#

Would be great if someone could soon compare the Bose S1 pro vs new JBL EON ONE Compact vs the EAE P2-8...
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:33 PM
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Uauu good news this autumn for those looking for a compact busking system!
More info about size and wattage here:
https://www.gear4music.it/it/PA-DJ-e...A-Speaker/34QH
Thanks the new infos are:
* Power Rating: 120W (100W to 8'' driver, 20W to 1'' driver)
So it is bi-amplified.

* Coverage Pattern: 100° x 60°

* JBL eon one compact Dimensions (L x W x H): 291mm x 255mm x 399mm

As a comparison
* Bose S1 pro Dimensions (L x W x H): 284,5 mm x 241,3 mm x 332 mm

So in volume it is bigger than the Bose and the QSC CP8... For me it is a good sign for the low end response.

the EAE P2-8 does not feature gain pots or channel EQ... For it is a no-go.
The EAE D6-8 MKII 80 seems to be the real competitor but I think EAE might be more of a monitor speaker with built-in mixer: so the near-field acoustic image is perfect but the "throw" is limited. It is what everyone writes about EAE here.

The extra pictures show a traditional 2-way speaker arrangement (not necessarly bad)
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:37 PM
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is there any info. on the battery size for the EON ONE COMPACT? also, any info. on if it is on full power running on battery?
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:59 PM
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The new EAE P2-8 and this JBL Eon One Compact are very very similar, the main difference being the JBL has a digital mixer. I wonder how they'll compare in sound quality and headroom.

EAE seems to be churning out product after product these days. No way of getting them in my country though~
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Old 10-14-2019, 07:35 PM
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This thing has the specs I've been hoping for. The true 48v phantom power, on board reverb, and 8-band EQ should mean that I no longer need to carry and setup my mixer.

For me, the S1 Pro's battery provided portability and resulting higher price was essentially worthless because I needed power for my mixer with EQ and 48v phantom power anyway.

The next time my local GC offers a 20% off new merchandise when trading in old gear, I might have to pick one up.
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Old 10-15-2019, 10:10 AM
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Haven’t seen any mention yet of the Roland BA-330.
Might want to compare to that one, too. Kinda similar and stereo, too, FWIW.
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https://www.roland.com/global/products/ba-330/x
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...-roland-ba-330

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Old 10-15-2019, 12:03 PM
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Haven’t seen any mention yet of the Roland BA-330.
Might want to compare to that one, too. Kinda similar and stereo, too, FWIW.
See:
https://www.roland.com/global/products/ba-330/x
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...-roland-ba-330

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Roland BA-330 has been on the market for many years and it's only 30W.
The only advantage - it has 4 inputs/channels .
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Old 10-15-2019, 12:06 PM
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Haven’t seen any mention yet of the Roland BA-330.
Might want to compare to that one, too. Kinda similar and stereo, too, FWIW.
See:
https://www.roland.com/global/products/ba-330/x
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...-roland-ba-330

_Roger
I own the BA330 and have busked with it the last 6 or 7 years. It is a great sounding unit with enough inputs for most people but its major drawback is its size and weight. The major appeal of these new units (to me atleast) is the power/size ratio. When you are dragging these units on and off packed busses and metro cars, size and weight make all the difference. I'm sure the BA330 is a bit louder and has better sound dispersion but it isn't necessary to be that loud in a lot of scenarios.

I'm very interested in the new JBL unit. My go-to busking amp right now is the Carvin S600b which is a real powerhouse and very compact but is started to show signs of wear. The reverb often doesn't want to function properly. Would love to try out the new JBL unit.


Just my 2 cents as a city dwelling busker.
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