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70s piezo pickup
I came across this live performance from 1977 and was stunned by the quality of this piezo pickup equipped guitar. It seems like most piezo designs today are not any better than those pioneering systems.
Even my Martin with Fishman Sonitone didn't sound as good as her amplified Ovation guitar. Are we really making any progress in getting a more natural sound in a live setting? High expectations are put now on processors like Tonedexter (and Fishman Aura) but it's taken decades to improve electro-acoustics. Another thought after watching this - a skilful player with a good song doesn't need the best system to impress listeners. |
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Fishman Aura Blender would have improved that no end.
I'm in the process of evaluating the Tonedexter and that piezo signal sounds like the ideal 'before" setup to trigger the TD's processing.
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and let's be careful when comparing our tone with the recorded tone of professionals who have the benefit of massive amounts of sound reinforcement equipment and highly trained technicians to make them sound 'that good'.
My Alvarez with Barcus Barry hot dots and their proprietary preamp sounded pretty good back in the day if I say so myself! |
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Speaking to the quality of pickups of the ‘70s: The F.R.A.P. GP-100 of the day, with on-board preamp, was pretty amazing. I have one in my Gurian that is still great.
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Another thought after watching this - a skilful player with a good song doesn't need the best system to impress listeners. Without a doubt, and that was some great playing. |
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The skillful playing helped me overlook an otherwise very marginal guitar tone. Good playing tends to do that.
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I used Barcus Berry pickups in the 1970s. They were great. Still got one on my 12 string. With decent equalisation they're still good. But modern pickups are better (and higher output). Ovation pick ups always sounded a bit "buzzy" to me...but back then this was new tech and sooooo different from electromagnetic soundhole pick ups.
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I find it intriguing that the Adamas sounded better strummed than fingerpicked. That's counter-intuitive to most of us who would say a UST sounds ok picked but can go to heck when strummed with force. Of course, the Ovation pickup isn't a true UST, but still, I think it's interesting that it sounded clearer when strummed. Curious if that was the nature of the FET preamp from the era.
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Ughhh! The same old “quack”! SO many live recordings from that era ruined by primitive piezo quack!
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Where's the guy who always says, "They should have used a K&K?
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OMG, UST SOUND BAD. USE K&K. ONLY GOOD PICKUP.
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Thanks for that! I can sleep well tonight...
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