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I own both and I like both but the QSC 8.2 is the winner unless you rely on battery power...
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The S1 is not a line array in any sense, it’s a fairly normal 2 way box speaker and shouldn’t be considered as a line array alternative (or, as in the case of the Bose compact, a pseudo-line array alternative). It’s three 2.5” ‘high’ drivers are probably mounted in such a way as to extend the impression of wider dispersion but the reality is that the effect will only be in the upper mids/lower highs and probably only effectively ‘full range’ at fairly close to the box listening positions. |
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I'm sure you had a great time of it too.
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That doesn't solve the problem. You need to remove the problematic frequencies, not add more of the non-problematic frequencies. Subtractive EQ is more effective than additive EQ. It is the preferred method used by experienced live sound and recording engineers.
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used at max all the time it won't last long. The addage should read if you buy a corolla to tow a boat... it will do it ...but not for very long. If you buy a duramax diesel to tow the same boat the truck won't work as hard and last much longer. Anyway i've heard the dispersion of these bigger line array bose systems. It's actually pretty cool. you can't really tell where the sound is coming from. I am not sure the s1 has the same capability. even if it did your still limited to smaller audiences then you would be with the qsc. i would love to test drive one of these little s1s . I have several gigs coming up at an intimate listening space where i think it would shine. like 25 folks eating dinner. Be nicer to carry this than my k10 and board. but it wont replace the k10. Last edited by varmonter; 02-22-2018 at 09:02 AM. |
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According to this sheet posted earlier by Cuki, S1 dispersion (coverage) is 100 deg H, 40 deg V which less than the QSCs 105 deg conical:
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It is easy to get caught up in the "search for perfection," but sometimes what needs to be done is: set up quick, play, and enjoy. I have used a Roland Cube Street when no power is available... it "ain't pretty," but it is there. My wife once said, "That doesn't sound as good as your Bose." Ya think? But to a bunch of boat owners on a dock, it was just fine. Plenty of "Sounds good!" and not a single: "You need to scoop the mids." |
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exactly.. generally the audience is no where near
as fussy as we all are when it comes to sound reinforcement. Generally "its not loud enough" or "Its too loud" is the extent of an audiences reaction. |
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Some miscellaneous responses:
1. Boosting the low and high frequencies is not the same as cutting the mids. 2. Adding a small mixer to the equation doesn't add a lot of complexity (aside from learning how to use the mixer) and does add a lot of versatility. 3. We are all WAY more focused on sound quality than almost everyone who will hear you play. 4. K.2 + small mixer wins for versatility, Bose wins for portability. |
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I'm going to sell my L1 Model 2 because I'm not getting a big enough return for the effort to make me feel like using it again now that I also have the Eon One, but they really are hard to beat.
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Qsc k8.2 is cleaner at any kind of volume.
I have both units - if not for the battery feature and weight the bose starts to get muddy and bass heavy when pushed especially if you want to play backing tracks. Qsc stays clear as a bell with endless headroom! For a park situation the Bose is very impressive! I'm keeping both. Last edited by wweiss; 02-22-2018 at 09:12 PM. |
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QSC K.2 speakers' 2000 watt capabilities are nothing but a marketing ploy, however, the K.2 will supply much more clean headroom.
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Yes, older QSC's are 500 watts and the new ones are 1000.
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In nearly 50 years of performing and using various pieces of gear, I have finally realized that what the specs say is meaningless when actually hearing and using the units...
I've heard all the cork-sniffing and whining about the Bose L1 systems, and the truth of it is that they sound so much more natural and "transparent" than any QSC rig I've heard... let alone the dispersion of the Bose is off-the-charts. I would have to actually use the S1 before I deemed it "not enough power" or less dispersion than the QSC units. I realize that how the QSC speakers are employed is a big part of how they'll sound in any particular application, but I have found them to have huge drop-off's or dead zones out in the listening area, not any sort of even dispersion of sound.
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