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Old 10-02-2023, 05:02 PM
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When I first started to play guitar I didn't really know what in tune was. I would try to tune to our old upright piano which itself was out of tune. When I got a Play Guitar with The Ventures album they had a tuning reference on the record so you could play along. Later on when I started playing in bands I tuned to the organ which was usually a Farfisa. Sometimes when playing at home I would tune to the low E on Day Tripper but then I didn't consider if my turntable turned at the correct speed. Really I think I was out of tune a lot of the time and didn't know it. I didn't have access to a tuner until the 80s. A guitarist in the band then had a Conn Strobe Tuner that we both tuned to. Then I bought a Boss TU-12 which I still have.
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Old 10-02-2023, 05:16 PM
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Pitch pipe? Tuning fork? Other?
Tuning fork. And, I still do.
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Old 10-02-2023, 07:31 PM
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Pitch pipe to tune the low E string. Tune the high E to sound right with the low E. Tune the A,D, and G by harmonics starting with the low E and the B with harmonics to the high E. Double check by fretting notes on adjacent strings. Hope for the best and wonder why the guitar always sounds a little "off".

I play in a church group along with a piano. Sometimes when the weather changes, the piano drifts a little sharp or flat. Then I need to turn off my electronic tuner and tune like above, but starting with a piano note instead of a pitch pipe.
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Old 10-02-2023, 07:40 PM
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i feel like I am on the young side here, lol, but I used to listen to Metallica's Nothing Else Matters, tune the low E to that then 5th/4th fret the rest of them.
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Old 10-03-2023, 08:50 AM
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I used to have a wooden box with a support thingy for a tuning fork. Bang the fork and put it in the box, which would amplify the tuning fork and it would ring for 30 seconds or so. Really quite accurate if you do it right. I wish I still had this!
Pitch pipes, also. But often we’d tune to a harmonica or piano, after all those can’t change their tuning and you have to match them.
I maintain that the biggest improvement in live music over the last 50 years is the guitar tuner. The change in sound quality of live bands before and after this change is apparent in many recordings.
I used to carry around an inexpensive wooden box to amplify my tuning fork too. It was my guitar. Set the foot of the tuning on the bridge.
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Old 10-03-2023, 09:17 AM
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Very poorly. I tried to get one string and then go from there. I have a poor ear so it took some time getting there. Probably never was in standard.
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Old 10-03-2023, 09:32 AM
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Sometime in 1964, a friend and I went to a folk music concert with his parents. After the show, we asked his mother, a concert harpist, how she’d liked the music. She said it was fine, but it was a shame they were out of tune. We, her son and I, were puzzled because we hadn’t heard any out of tune notes. She said that they had been in “relative tune”, but not in proper tune. She was blessed (or cursed) with perfect pitch.

I promptly bought a 440hz tuning fork. I used that until reliable electronic tuners became available.
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Old 10-03-2023, 10:31 AM
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Many used harmonicas to tune to. The Beatles for one.
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Old 10-03-2023, 10:35 AM
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all tune to the most experienced player, who tuned by ear.
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Old 10-03-2023, 10:39 AM
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When I was a kid learning how to play (1970) I remember tuning top songs on the radio. Figured I'd be close.
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Old 10-03-2023, 10:54 AM
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1st - A tuning fork for the "A"
2nd - tune each string to the other
3rd - play out of tune
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Old 10-03-2023, 12:12 PM
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I used to carry around an inexpensive wooden box to amplify my tuning fork too. It was my guitar. Set the foot of the tuning on the bridge.

Yes, I’ve done that too, but then you don’t have 2 hands free. That little wooden box was a great tool.
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Old 10-03-2023, 12:28 PM
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I remember when I first learned how to play at 13 through like age 20 I just tuned the guitar to itself. The result was that sometime a song would be well within my singing range but then other times not. It wasn't until I started playing in a duo that the other guitarist mentioned A440 and concert pitch and we used a tuning fork to tune our guitars. It was like a light went on - Oh...that's why sometimes the song isn't in my range. Huh? LOL
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Old 10-03-2023, 12:28 PM
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A 440 tuning fork, and then by harmonics.
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Old 10-04-2023, 12:45 AM
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This question made me smile. When starting out I used a tuning fork tuned to A then tuned all other strings by ear, the old fashion way. I use electric tuners now but still only to get me close. Final tuning is still done by ear listening to harmonic oscillations in chords then fine tuning them out.
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