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Old 10-06-2022, 08:18 AM
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I drive a 2015 Infiniti Q50. I bought it used in 2019 with under 7800 miles on it. It's been a great car.
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Old 10-06-2022, 08:22 AM
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In celebration of transition to EVs, I drive a 5500-lb sports car. 2022 Audi SQ8, 4.0-liter V8, hot-V twin turbo, 500 HP, 568 lb-ft. Personal rapid transit vehicle.

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Old 10-06-2022, 10:09 AM
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In celebration of transition to EVs, I drive a 5500-lb sports car. 2022 Audi SQ8, 4.0-liter V8, hot-V twin turbo, 500 HP, 568 lb-ft. Personal rapid transit vehicle.

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That is an example of excess that could entertain me but the loss of a family member from someone else's brief moment of poor behavior has changed what and how I will drive. Enjoy it in good health but please be very careful with how you might do the celebrating.
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Old 10-07-2022, 03:25 PM
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That is an example of excess that could entertain me but the loss of a family member from someone else's brief moment of poor behavior has changed what and how I will drive. Enjoy it in good health but please be very careful with how you might do the celebrating.
I grew up in the auto business and can remember when we could buy a new GTO for about $3500. An Audi for over $100K? To each their own but that's a huge amount of money for another car that resembles a Subaru. Drive it safely.
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Old 10-08-2022, 06:29 AM
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I grew up in the auto business and can remember when we could buy a new GTO for about $3500. An Audi for over $100K? To each their own but that's a huge amount of money for another car that resembles a Subaru. Drive it safely.
@JonWint Audi is not a common car so maybe you intended to reply to him. I made that drive it safely comment because we lost a family member from someone's random moment of behaving poorly behind the wheel.

There's no 2022 GTO for comparison but still, consider its scheduled to die 2022 Camaro and the money over time. The performance 2022 Camaro is a $66,000 car. The performance is about commensurate with price but you get AWD and practicality with the Audi wagon.

We have a cousin of that Audi and a Subaru so consider that reference a complement. The German cars are a pleasure to drive but the Subaru is more reliable and in some circumstances superior to the Haldex drive system VAG uses. Haldex can be more fun.

What is more impressive to me is to looking at what a less than GTO would be priced today market equivalents. The small/mid and hot hatch categories outperform and cost less adjusted for inflation. Subaru even has AWD in that category.

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Old 10-08-2022, 07:46 AM
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I had no idea that an SQ8 could trigger such responses. I'm just a 70-year-old lifelong gearhead who enjoys the advanced safety and performance technology in this model. (The RSQ8 delivery time would have been more than a year when I bought this one.)

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That is an example of excess that could entertain me but the loss of a family member from someone else's brief moment of poor behavior has changed what and how I will drive. Enjoy it in good health but please be very careful with how you might do the celebrating.
Rest easy. I don’t suffer from your lack of urge control when driving. I'm a safe driver. The standard and optional equipment on this car assist the driver in control, collision avoidance, and uninterrupted situational awareness.

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I grew up in the auto business and can remember when we could buy a new GTO for about $3500. An Audi for over $100K? To each their own but that's a huge amount of money for another car that resembles a Subaru. Drive it safely.
What's a GTO have to do with a car in 2022? A modern econobox can outperform a 1965 GTO in all aspects.

To which Subaru were you referring? It must be this one:

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Old 10-08-2022, 10:03 AM
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I had no idea that an SQ8 could trigger such responses. I'm just a 70-year-old lifelong gearhead who enjoys the advanced safety and performance technology in this model. (The RSQ8 delivery time would have been more than a year when I bought this one.)



Rest easy. I don’t suffer from your lack of urge control when driving. I'm a safe driver. The standard and optional equipment on this car assist the driver in control, collision avoidance, and uninterrupted situational awareness.



What's a GTO have to do with a car in 2022? A modern econobox can outperform a 1965 GTO in all aspects.

To which Subaru were you referring? It must be this one:

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My urge control and driving record are both good or fantastic, however we lost a family member who was just driving along when someone else did not. Our kids lost two classmates from someone engaged in the behavior. Our police sergeant friend would repeat how so many tragedies she had to deal with involved performance cars and pickups.

To be fair, it is not just sports cars but I changed my hobbies to the risk only endangering me. I still appreciate the engineering and would have smiled if my wife went forward with wanting one of a few nice German cars beyond what we have but she's in essence decided to spend about 2 of what you have on our home and cabin.

A current WRX would cost less than a classic GTO price today - the econobox you mention.

Maybe my gear head urge will return within the next decade when my aging body can't do the freeride biking and skiing.

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Old 10-10-2022, 11:44 AM
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This should be a fun, safe thread in the spirit of AGF.

I don't think anyone should be disparaging of anyone else for what car they choose to drive or how much they spend on the car. All that's going to do is kill this thread and discourage people from posting. Also, why would anyone on this site belittle someone for buying an expensive car when $30,000 guitars are not uncommon on AGF?

I also highly disagree with the premise that driving a high performance car is inherently more dangerous for others on the road. It is the person driving the car that matters. If anything, an expensive car with more safety features is inherently more safe.
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Old 10-10-2022, 11:48 AM
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This should be a fun, safe thread in the spirit of AGF.

I don't think anyone should be disparaging of anyone else for what car they choose to drive or how much they spend on the car. All that's going to do is kill this thread and discourage people from posting. Also, why would anyone on this site belittle someone for buying an expensive car when $30,000 guitars are not uncommon on AGF?

I also highly disagree with the premise that driving a high performance car is inherently more dangerous for others on the road. It is the person driving the car that matters. If anything, an expensive car with more safety features is inherently more safe.

If this post had a like button, I’d smashed it 1,000 times!! Thanks for posting what I’m sure others wanted to say!
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Old 10-10-2022, 12:32 PM
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I also highly disagree with the premise that driving a high performance car is inherently more dangerous for others on the road. It is the person driving the car that matters. If anything, an expensive car with more safety features is inherently more safe.
I dunno about inherently safer, but I do know that my sports car's performance has probably saved me a couple times, when I had to quickly accelerate or swerve to avoid somebody else's poor choice, and the car's handling helped me avoid the calamity safely.
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Old 10-13-2022, 02:20 PM
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My tastes have changed over the years. At 19 I had a first year 240Z and previously GTO’s and a Shelby GT350. At present it’s a Titan by Nissan which gives me a high degree of comfort and convenience in a very quiet cab. Doesn’t handle but I don’t push it either. Next vehicle will be an EV.
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Old 10-13-2022, 02:56 PM
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On weekends, I go electric with my EZGO custom golf cart at the lake.
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Old 10-13-2022, 05:36 PM
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On weekends, I go electric with my EZGO custom golf cart at the lake.
We live at a lake. A few years ago my wife decided we needed a golf cart. “For what?” I said. But we ended up with a used Club Car. Man, we use that thing for everything. Yard work, visiting neighbors, joy rides for the grand kids; we even loaded PA gear on it to go play a neighborhood gig. Now, if I could only get a mower deck on it . . .
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We live at a lake. A few years ago my wife decided we needed a golf cart. “For what?” I said. But we ended up with a used Club Car. Man, we use that thing for everything. Yard work, visiting neighbors, joy rides for the grand kids; we even loaded PA gear on it to go play a neighborhood gig. Now, if I could only get a mower deck on it . . .
My dad is a keen golfer and when he took me out golfing as a young lad I’d beg him to get a golf cart which I enjoyed driving much more than the actual round of golf! Unfortunately he preferred the walk round the course but he gave in on a few occasions.
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This should be a fun, safe thread in the spirit of AGF.

I don't think anyone should be disparaging of anyone else for what car they choose to drive or how much they spend on the car. All that's going to do is kill this thread and discourage people from posting. Also, why would anyone on this site belittle someone for buying an expensive car when $30,000 guitars are not uncommon on AGF?

I also highly disagree with the premise that driving a high performance car is inherently more dangerous for others on the road. It is the person driving the car that matters. If anything, an expensive car with more safety features is inherently more safe.
You are correct, interestingly the statistics from 2019 of fatal auto accidents do not show high performance as being a factor, in fact a high performance vehicle does not even make the top 25 list of vehicles involved in fatal crashes . My guess is anecdotal correlation between high performance and dangerous driving is mostly in the mind of the person expressing it.
The below stats do not make a distinction between accidents that involved just one vehicle and accidents that involved a collision, as to suspected cause.. So to my mind it is not unexpected that with the explosion in popularity and sales of pickup trucks , they rank at the top given especially given the higher center of gravity and roll over potential.


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