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Getting awfully close to Dock territory!
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I'm not a lawyer or a busker, but I dont know what you are rolling your eyes at. The ability to stand on a public street and play music while people voluntarily tip you (or not) seems like a pretty basic freedom, that is a whole lot less free when it has to be paid for.
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Aint that the truth!!!!
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Keep in mind that although the First Amendment protects the right of free expression, regulations restricting the time, place, and manner of such expressions have been upheld. So long as these regulations are content neutral, that is, they don’t restrict what is said, but only address matters in which the state has a legitimate interest, such as maintaining the public peace and safety, they are given a lot of deference by the courts. The safest course would be to check local ordinances before venturing out, the next would be to go ahead and play, but be very respectful and compliant if you’re hassled by the police. The last thing would be to stand your ground waiving a copy of the First Amendment – unless you have enough backing to afford to be a test case.
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In other words, if I ever become a bag lady, I had better be a GIG bag lady.
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My advice?
Location...location...location... And, shine it on, until the "Man" comes along, and tells you to move... Some touristy areas actually welcome street musicians, because it draws people... It will be an experience, either way... I have a friend, who is wheelchair-bound, and plays on the street corner, near the university, most every weekend. No one bothers him, and he makes pretty good $$. Not a living, but it keeps him happy!! Btw, Victoria, Canada is buskers paradise...
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Just out of curiosity...seriously...why is it called "busking"?
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“Keep in mind that although the First Amendment protects the right of free expression, regulations restricting the time, place, and manner of such expressions have been upheld. So long as these regulations are content neutral, that is, they don’t restrict what is said, but only address matters in which the state has a legitimate interest, such as maintaining the public peace and safety, they are given a lot of deference by the courts.”
The 1st Amendment also protects: “The right of the people peaceably to assemble”. Subsequent ‘rulings’ notwithstanding, it does not say “except in matters in which the state has a legitimate interest”. If the “State” can tell a citizen when, where and how he is ‘permitted’ to freely exercise his 1st Amendment rights, it negates the intent of the Amendment. “The last thing would be to stand your ground waiving a copy of the First Amendment…” It is up to the individual to decide his course of action. You can ask ‘permission’ of the authorities, pay your license fee and get your ‘vendor’s license’. They will tell you when, where, and for how long you are permitted to play. Next week, they will tell you what you cannot play. Cabbitt www.dunnellononline.com |
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It would be my luck that after making some money at it, getting along with the law and the merchants, and drawing a crowd, the "music police" would come along and make me pay performance fees for all the songs I play.
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"These performers have not always been called buskers. The term busking was first noted in the English language around the middle 1860s. The word busk comes from the Spanish root word buscar, meaning "to seek" – buskers are literally seeking fame and fortune.[5][6] In obsolete French it evolved to busquer for "seek, prowl" and was generally used to describe prostitutes. In Italian it evolved to buscare which meant "procure, gain" and in Italy buskers are called buscarsi or, more simply, Buskers (see loan word). From the Renaissance to the early 1900s, busking was called minstrelsy in Europe and English-speaking lands. Before that, itinerant musicians were known by the French term troubadours. In old French the term jongleurs was also used to describe buskers. In northern France they were known as trouveres. In old German buskers were known as minnesingers and spielleute. The term busk is also used in music when a musician has to play something quickly from scratch, by ear or at sight, as in: I'll just busk it."
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The famous Supreme Court example is that one cannot yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre (if there is no fire). Public safety, property values, intellectual property rights, commerce, our nation's defense, etc. all come into play in detemining how "freely" we can exercise our rights. You may not like having to keep your gun and ammunition in separate compartments of your car, obtaining a busking license, or voting at a particular poll location, but the fact is that these (and many, many others) are proper and legal restrictions on individual's rights. Having set that straight, I do admit to have busked a total of 2 times in my life; neither time with any time of license or permit.... |
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I think it might be more accurate to say that laws *BANNING* busking have been found unconstitutional.
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I said the 'intent' of the 1st Amendment. I was not alluding to the "decades" of manipulation by lawyers, which has left the original intent of the founders in shatters. As an example: when did protection from 'unreasonable search and seizure' give way to helmeted storm troopers battering in doors? That happened here yesterday, and one of the doors the Nazis battered down was at the wrong house. As I said before, you are free to relinquish your rights; I choose to retain mine. Cabbitt www.dunnellononline.com |