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Old 04-30-2017, 02:10 AM
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Default Hollowbody's and Acoustic amps

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I Just got a question about acoustic amplifiers.

I play a dreadnought acoustic almost everyday and use a Marshall AS50R to amplify the guitar in live enviroments. It has worked perfectly for the last couple of years.

Recently I fell in love with an old hollowbody guitar from 1977 that was being sold as an occasion at my local music store. It is an AriaProII EA200WA.

I don't have an electric amplifier so I just tried it with the Marshall AS50R.
Surprisingly, this didn't sound that bad. It just sounds a bit thin.

I bought the hollowbody to be able to create a diffrent sound. Still sticking to the kind of acoustic sound, but a bit diffrent. I use effects like chorus, reverb and delay to create diffrent sounds with it.

The only problem that I keep facing, is that the guitar sounds thin in my ears. Now my question is, How can I get the guitar to sound better through the acoustic amp?
I know I should probably buy an electric amp, but I really like the sound of the marshall AS50R.

I was thinking of some pedals, like a booster pedal to strenghten the signal, or an amp modeling pedal or maybe even a light overdrive pedal.

If you guys have any idea's on this topic, please share it with me
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Old 04-30-2017, 11:06 AM
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What type of pickups are on the hollowbody electric?
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Old 04-30-2017, 11:14 AM
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Try using the neck pickup, as it will pick up the strings where they're vibrating more than they vibrate near the bridge pickup, and maybe turn down the neck tone control a bit to take some of the treble out.

You could also use a preamp for electric guitar like some of the ones from Radial or Tech21NY to thicken up the sound.

Also, technique - in this case, where you play on the string length - matters. If you play by the bridge, it will sound sharper and thinner than playing over the neck pickup.
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Old 04-30-2017, 10:41 PM
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What type of pickups are on the hollowbody electric?
Some type of old humbuckers.

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Thanks for the advise!
A pre amp would probably solve alot.
I was also thinking about an acoustic simulator pedal.
Maybe this will give a thicker sound aswell.
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Old 04-30-2017, 10:47 PM
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Be sure to keep us updated on what you find. Oh, and Welcome to the AGF!

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Be sure to keep us updated on what you find. Oh, and Welcome to the AGF!

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Sure I will!
Next week I will go to the local music store to see what they have.


If anyone else has some idea's please share them
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Old 05-01-2017, 10:38 AM
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Hollowbodies are electric guitars, so to get a good sound through an acoustic amp, you might have your EQ set in a way that looks "wrong," but is necessary.

What kind of EQ does that Marshall have?

The preamp idea is a good one. If you're looking on the cheap, the Joyo "American Sound" is a Fender model, and it's quite impressive in how it colors the sound of a more "transparent" amplifier.
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The Marshall AS50R only has bass and treble control.

I already had some EQ problems with my acoustic guitar. So I bought a 7-band EQ pedal which I only use for the acoustic at the moment.
For the electric, I usually just crank the bass down and add some trebble which gives a good sound.
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Archabu -

If you "crank the bass down and add some treble" for your electric and then complain about it sounding "thin", your solution is to TAKE TREBLE OUT AND ADD BASS....

The tone settings you mentioned would be precisely what I would do to "thin out" the sound of any guitar in any amp, pretty much... you are defeating yourself with your own adjustment, my friend!

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Calm down for a second...
The bass isn't off!! it's just set low, because the amp is very bass heavy.
Only a little bit off bass is enough for this amp.
I tried every possible EQ setting on the amp itself! This is the best sound I could get with just EQ.
My question here on this post, is to find a way to change that sound with things like pre-amps or pedals.
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Old 05-01-2017, 02:06 PM
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Acoustic archtops with floating PUs sound pretty good through acoustic amps too.

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Sounds great!
I don't think this is a solution for me though.
I like to keep the guitar with original parts, so I probably won't replace the pickups.

At the moment I am looking at a Mooer Acoustikar pedal.
Which might be able to enchance the sound of my hollowbody,
as it already sounds a bit acoustic.

Thanks for the suggestion though!
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