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Old 10-01-2013, 07:26 PM
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Where did Rex go, why is Steven Bollman now building Rex's guitar?

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When Rex started stealing my women, that was the last straw.
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Old 10-01-2013, 08:04 PM
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Whoa! If I ever visit your place Steven I certainly will not mention the rank smell coming from the cellar.

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Old 10-02-2013, 01:38 PM
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Whoa! If I ever visit your place Steven I certainly will not mention the rank smell coming from the cellar.

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Whoa! I didn't mean kidnapping! I was referring to his Casanova-esque qualities.
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:40 PM
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RIP Rex.....you were so gifted with hand tools. You were such a conscientious responder to posts. And I guess you were amazing with the ladies. I doubt steven can keep up with you but we will hope.....for the sake of a stahl inspired masterpiece!

Suhweeet....
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:34 AM
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This is the blank of mahogany I cut a one piece neck out of last week. I am now attempting to make a bird's beak joint between the neck and headstock.




I think it took most of y day to figure out the layout. Believe it or not, there isn't much info on the internet about this joint. A little bit, not much. No dimensions. I've written them on the wood in case it comes out right I'll have something to go with should I choose to build another guitar with this style neck.



Side dimensions.



Getting the chance to use my magnificent Independence Dovetail saw. I think Lie Nielsen bought them out 13 or so years ago.



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Sawing and paring...



Let the chiseling begin. Using an old Stanley #50 Everlasting chisel.



Paring with a Robert Sorby paring chisel.



Rough fit. Tomorrow I'll do the final fit.



The headstock and neck still have to be shaped.

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Old 10-04-2013, 10:55 AM
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That's looking really good. You are going to put a double action rod adjustable from the soundhole in it, aren't you?
You probably have a plow plane to cut the slot.
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Old 10-04-2013, 12:37 PM
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That's looking really good. You are going to put a double action rod adjustable from the soundhole in it, aren't you?
You probably have a plow plane to cut the slot.
Thanks Rodger. It feels a bit sloppier than I wish, but it is a complex joint. Next time will be better. YES! I got a double action rod from Allied. I'm not sure if I will use the plow plane or the electric router...
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Old 10-04-2013, 12:46 PM
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nice turnaround time from questions about it to roughed out! I am also glad Howard pointed you to Greven website. I really enjoyed his write-up "Voicing". Good stuff. sam
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Old 10-05-2013, 12:42 AM
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Here's the neck and headstock assembly held together with gravity. The head plate is Madagascar Rosewood.

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Old 10-06-2013, 06:59 PM
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This is why this particular headstock/neck joint is call a Bird's Beak joint.



Getting ready to shape the neck.



I'm using a paring chisel...



...and also a rasp that I bought about 15 years ago from a nautical supply store on the embarcadero in SF. I don't think it's still there. The upstairs storage room was loaded with new old stock of all kinds of tools. I bought a bunch of files and chisels for peanuts.



It's a slow process. Lots of touching and feeling.



Little by little...

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Old 10-06-2013, 11:11 PM
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Some more refining. I think I still have to remove a lot of material.



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Old 10-07-2013, 12:35 PM
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I've been following along on your build. I appreciate all of the folks that are kind enough to share as I'm studying up to start my first build shortly.

Earlier in the thread I noticed that you cut a 1 piece neck/headstock from the Mahogany. Now you are creating a joint between a neck and 'separate' headstock. I didn't read where you decided to abandon the one piece in favor of this bird's beak style.
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Old 10-07-2013, 12:56 PM
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Hi T58,

I bought a blank that could make two necks. I like the strength and elegance of the birds beak joint. I mentioned that I was following most of the design, but in places that were mostly aesthetic or areas of arguable impact to the potential sound, I would make my own alterations.
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:29 PM
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Steve, I don't know what C&N say, but I would encourage you not to try to do a final shape on the neck before the fretboard is on it.

And a tip: the beginner is much more likely to leave too much wood on a neck, especially the shoulders, than to take too much off. I of course disclaim any responsibility for what may happen when you take my advice.
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And a tip: the beginner is much more likely to leave too much wood on a neck, especially the shoulders, than to take too much off. I of course disclaim any responsibility for what may happen when you take my advice.
+1 to that! I've reshaped the first neck I made 3 times, and it's still a little chunky for my taste.
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