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Old 09-20-2011, 01:09 PM
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Very cool. I guess I dont cut notches in the X for the other braces. I just get a really good butt joint.
pocketing is a better way then a butt joint because you are capturing that brace end in a pocket. with a butt joint you are putting glue between end grain and long grain. for me i like to taper right down to the top plate interface in order to de-couple the brace (tone bars and finger braces). i'm building a 3/4 guitar right now and need all the monopole movement i can get.
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Old 09-20-2011, 03:41 PM
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so your tone bars and finger braces taper to nothing before they intersect with the X? Or am I reading that wrong?
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:12 AM
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that's correct. i thought i'd do it this way on this one small guitar because there just isn't a lot of top to work with. most small 3/4 (little martin, yamaha fg junior, etc..) guitars imo sound like a brass snare drum -very brash and "honky" with clashing fundamentals and harmonics zinging about and little headroom. it's rare for me to find a good one. and in hindsight i suspect laminate woods to a certain extent. i though i'd de-couple a few things to get some more top movement. i'm making this guitar for my wife who wants a small shallow guitar to play and one that won't re-injure her shoulder. small and shallow = not a lot of box air volume. pulling good tone out of a tiny guitar is not an easy thing in comparison to a large dread with all that top to work with. everything is on a much smaller scale but you still need to deliver on the sound quality.

from a side view starting out at the x brace, a sharp, steep rise to about .75 or so then gradually tapering down to zero about a 1/16" or so from the kerfing. from an end view the profile is a pointy parabolic and the braces are .25 thick. i did this on the two finger braces and the single tone bar.

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Old 09-21-2011, 08:13 AM
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Cool. you will have to post some pics and tell us how it works out.
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:25 AM
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i should but i'm pretty bad with that. maybe on a separate post when the guitar is done. i don't want to hijack kwak's thread.
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Old 09-21-2011, 03:57 PM
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Yeah, I thought about that after I posted......sorry Neal.
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Old 09-23-2011, 06:30 PM
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Yay for me. I'm innocent this time, because I didn't hijack Neil's thread.

However, Neil and I hijacked another thread recently, but we didn't mean to.

(OK - I won't be hijacking this thread. Sorry, Neil.)
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:29 PM
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i should but i'm pretty bad with that. maybe on a separate post when the guitar is done. i don't want to hijack kwak's thread.
Hijack away. It's not as if anything's happening at any great rate of speed. Besides, I need to lean something too. So far learning from one's mistakes is getting pretty old.
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:48 AM
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I decided to put off the lower face bars and just glue in the X brace. This time I used the radius dish and I also took precautions to make sure that no go-bars slipped off!



BTW, I also tapered the ends of the side finger braces with a chisel. This isn't their final shape yet though.







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Old 09-25-2011, 07:49 AM
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Hey Neil,

I'm not a moderator, but I know from experience that the thread can only got up to 300 posts. You need to start a PART II so we can join you in the fun of this build.

I'll see you there, Little brother.
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Old 09-25-2011, 11:59 AM
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309 replies plus 1 and still going. I'll start a new thread anyway. This build just seems to be getting started, anyway.
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:33 PM
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I'll sneak in at the end.........
Neil, you are doing great. Sorry our schedules don't jive more often!
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:26 PM
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OK, just in case this thread needs to be closed by the mods I've continued things over on a new thread:
http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/f...d.php?t=228871
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