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Some of the fix before recording suggestions are very valid
As far as for what you have already recorded ( not sure what a vsti is) but you could try a Gate plug in and set it cut at the db level of the breathing ( one drawback though is you will also be cutting any of the guitar signal that drop below the gate threshold) so better to fix it going into the recording .
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I'm surprised no-one has mentioned this before but I will, because, as a recording engineer and guitarist, it is a technique I use and teach to others: hyperoxygenate. That's right. Spend a while breathing deeply to saturate the brain and tissues with oxygen before you start a take. Besides the benefit of causing you to breath more shallowly for a while, it will also relax you and give you a feeling of well-being. If you need to, stop down for more breaths and pick up again. I've been known to stop and do it just before the last measure so that I don't spoil the last ring-out with my humanity.

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Stop breathing through your nose.
Don't point the mic toward your face
Get a pickup

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Stop breathing through your nose.
Don't point the mic toward your face
Get a pickup

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Mouth breathing can be just as loud.
Pointing the mic away from the face will reduce but never completely eliminate heavy breathing sounds.
I'm still waiting for a pickup that sounds as good as a decent mic.
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I'm still waiting for a pickup that sounds as good as a decent mic.
My first terrible joke of 2018...

Don't hold your breath!!!

Sorry. :-)
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Mouth breathing can be just as loud.
Pointing the mic away from the face will reduce but never completely eliminate heavy breathing sounds.
I'm still waiting for a pickup that sounds as good as a decent mic.
Hello Mr, Ruskin, et al,
1. Can be, but it may vary. Weight loss, especially around the diaphragm, may also help.
2. Exactly, but the combination of 1+2 may make him happy. If not, maybe a Quaalude before performance will relax him sufficiently.
3. The K&K Pure Mini does a pretty nice job if you're not using a flat pick. I have one in my D28s and find it acceptable for finger style.

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Listening to that track, I can't get over how loud that breathing is relative to the guitar.

My first thought: put the mics a lot closer.
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Cool Heavy Breathing

Hopefully we can hear back from Lacatedral as to whether any of the thoughtful suggestions offered have been helpful.

It always amuses me when someone posts a question to the forum and then goes absent.
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Just got one ordered .
http://www.tc-helicon.com/en/products/mp-76/

I had read this post before and recalled several other posts asking the same thing .

these are some of the spec's on it :
  • 4 User-Assignable Buttons for Controlling
  • TC-Helicon Vocal Effects
  • Super-Cardioid Pick-Up Pattern Optimized
  • for Close Mic Technique
  • Superior Background Noise Rejection and
  • Resistance to Feedback
  • Excellent Pop and Breath Noise Rejection <=====<<<- NOTE
  • & Low Handling Noise
  • Numeric Display Shows FX Settings

I didn't get the MP-76 because of this one single issue but it's really nice to know I did address it to some
degree because I am a heavy breathing harp player with a monster set of lungs .

This mic is designed for T.C.Helicon FX units so some of the features mentioned won't mean much to
anyone who doesn't use a T.C. Helicon FX unit . It's the [ Breath Noise Rejection ] it has that I wanted
to make note of on this post for acoustic guitar players who like me are heavy breathers .

I use a T.C.Helicon VoiceLive 3X for my vocal , electric and acoustic instruments and synthesizer guitar .

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Just got one ordered .
http://www.tc-helicon.com/en/products/mp-76/

I had read this post before and recalled several other posts asking the same thing .

these are some of the spec's on it :
  • 4 User-Assignable Buttons for Controlling
  • TC-Helicon Vocal Effects
  • Super-Cardioid Pick-Up Pattern Optimized
  • for Close Mic Technique
  • Superior Background Noise Rejection and
  • Resistance to Feedback
  • Excellent Pop and Breath Noise Rejection <=====<<<- NOTE
  • & Low Handling Noise
  • Numeric Display Shows FX Settings

I didn't get the MP-76 because of this one single issue but it's really nice to know I did address it to some
degree because I am a heavy breathing harp player with a monster set of lungs .

This mic is designed for T.C.Helicon FX units so some of the features mentioned won't mean much to
anyone who doesn't use a T.C. Helicon FX unit . It's the [ Breath Noise Rejection ] it has that I wanted
to make note of on this post for acoustic guitar players who like me are heavy breathers .

I use a T.C.Helicon VoiceLive 3X for my vocal , electric and acoustic instruments and synthesizer guitar .

EZ :

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We'll be waiting for your report. I tend to believe its just marketing hype for the built-in screening.
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Old 01-05-2018, 05:56 PM
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We'll be waiting for your report. I tend to believe its just marketing hype for the built-in screening.
Left Michigan and now in Wyoming -

Oh but the waiting is the hardest part

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Fantastic playing. Sounds great.

No one has mentioned this so I will. When I record I pick up the finish of my guitar rubbing against my clothing. The Larrivee has a satin finish. It sounds a lot like your breathing.

What type of finish is on your guitar.??
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Old 01-16-2018, 05:56 AM
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Hi I'm currently trying to learn to record fingerstyle acoustic guitar and classical guitar.
I record with a match pair of Rode M5 for stereo.
I recorded this as a sound test with a classical guitar, kind of new strings (three weeks old), ORTF microphone tecnique, about 40-50 centimeters away from the guitar if I recall correctly:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1DAO3Tfgtb8


Thing is, the microphones always catch my breathing which is kind of heavy.
The Rode M5 come with windshields, which I haven't tried yet, but I saw many recordings including this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASVhwkkgW50 and this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeoDvJPipxw which don't use them.
I'd like to know also if anyone tried with any vsti to solve this and your experiencies.

Any ideas?
Sebastian,
Get a package of Breath-Rite Nasal strips. Use them. They absoutely work.

I assume you record with headphones on, yes?

See how that affects the proceedings.

You could also try a piece of sound absorbing foam fashioned into a 'bib' in front of your mouth/nose, but not too close. A harmonica rack might help to hold it in place.

I've got plenty of tracks throughout my 4 CD releases where my breathing can be heard. I try to distract the listener by making the musical content interesting:-)

Buena suerte!

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Old 01-31-2018, 04:49 AM
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I record with a match pair of Rode M5 for stereo.
I recorded this as a sound test with a classical guitar, kind of new strings (three weeks old), ORTF microphone tecnique, about 40-50 centimeters away from the guitar if I recall correctly:

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1DAO3Tfgtb8


Thing is, the microphones always catch my breathing which is kind of heavy.
The Rode M5 come with windshields, which I haven't tried yet,
Any ideas?


After considerable listening to your recording all I can say is there is no issue , the breathing I heard was
there alright but no where did it detract from the quality and inspiration of the arrangement or the
technical execution .

Maybe the wind screen(s) will dampen the sound of your breathing but in all reality , I've heard more breathing
on other pro stuff like Paco De Luca and such so I'd not worry , cause you nailed it good in all regards .

EZ :

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Old 01-31-2018, 11:27 AM
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Windscreens will NOT reduce the sound of breathing. They will reduce popping.

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