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My experience using the John Miner method.
Having read the posts describing what a horror show it can be doing a traditional neck reset on an Alvarez Yairi, I decided to try the steaming method on my DY45.
I’ll describe my process, which took one month. I started on October 1st. At that time, I had action at the 12th fret of 8/64 and 7/64. I had only 3/64 of saddle above the bridge. My string break angle over the saddle was not good. The guitar was playable, but there was definitely room for improvement. I clamped the guitar, and steamed it 6 times over the next two weeks. Using a straight edge on the neck, I made sure I had 1/4 inch above the bridge. I left it clamped one more week, for a total of 3 weeks. After being clamped for 3 weeks, I put the guitar in the case unstrung, with 2 Herco humidifiers. So now the results, after one month. Today I have a new saddle with 11/64” above the bridge. The string break angle is WAY better. The action at the 12th fret is 6/64 on the low E, and between 4-5/64 for the high E. The guitar plays better, and sounds better as a result of the improved string break angle. I cannot see any negative result to the condition of the guitar. I was careful to stuff plenty of rags in the body, so there are no loose braces. No damage at all. Obviously only time will tell how well it holds up. Perhaps I’ll have to do it again in a year. But based on this experience, I have to call it a success. |
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I doubt anyone does this on a high end guitar and if it doesn’t harm the structural integrity and fixes the playability I don’t see the fuss. A traditional neck set is not a permanent solution either and many neck heels have been cracked in the process. It’s just wood. |
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Any advantage that is gained is gained through cold bending, that is where you force a piece of wood into a position it doesnt want to be and being left clamped for an extended period of time
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I seriously doubt that I would have had the results that I got if I had just clamped the guitar and not used any steam. Others are welcome to their own opinions, but I am convinced that the combination of steam and tension is what gave me the satisfactory result that I got.
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It is a little premature to be singing prases yet, the reason people speak highly of traditional neck resets is becuase they have been played for many years afterwards with very little issues arising. Its one thing for a person to do it to their own guitar and sing praises about any gains they may get, a completley different scenario paying someone to do the neck reset and then critically assessing the work over the next year or ten years as after all you paid for the job
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I note that this video shows this method being used on a very cheap brand, where a neck reset would probably be more costly than the instrument value.
I this case then it is justified. I wouldn't feel happy having this done to a more expensive instrument.
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I firmly believe that if I had clamped the guitar cold and not steamed it, when it was strung up to full tension it would have reverted back where it was when I started. I just rechecked the string height today after being strung to full tension for 11 days. It hasn’t budged. Will it pull back up over time ? Maybe. Probably. I’m not going to spend 6-7 hundred dollars for a pro neck reset on a guitar that is only worth 6-7 hundred dollars. I’m not advocating this procedure for someone with a valuable vintage instrument. I’m only documenting my experience. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I’m happy with the result that I got. |
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those who do this on a daily basis 40hrs a week and get paid to do it and must warrant their work, will have a differing view than hey lets see if this works and how long will it hold for, my point of contention is having spoken to john is he claims to be a luthier and this is what he does to customers guitars, if this is what he does to customers guitars, then he is no luthier You tend to come in and say hey there is another proof it works and drop my name in your response so hence the replies. As far as an agreed method for epoxied necks etc, far from it, epoxied neck resets can be done by slipping the back, or removing the fretboard and planing a new one etc, converting to a bolt on neck etc there are many ways to do it, clamping and cold bending is not one of them
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