Grand Pacific is a DRED....

[AllanAnd]

Who cares what they call it?

I want one!

[SoCalSurf]

Originally Posted by AllanAnd

Who cares what they call it?

I want one!

Go for it. You will not regret it.

[ataylor]

In addition to using the ‘dreadnought’ term on their website for these models, it’s on the label as well.



If you missed it — which wouldn’t be surprising given the unnecessarily busy/complicated design of these labels — check out the stamp/seal design in the bottom-right quadrant. The left one, because yes, there are two!

I’ll resist further design critique.

[lodi_55]

Originally Posted by Tico

Taylor's marketing bozos forcing us to call it Grand Pacific reminds me of how Starbucks (which should be named Fivebucks) wants you to call their large size "Venti".

I don't agree with that marketing tactic, but it worked incredibly well and created a "language" unique to Starbucks.

[Groovingdan]

That's like, your opinion man...

[Tico]

Originally Posted by lodi_55

I don't agree with that marketing tactic, but it worked incredibly well and created a "language" unique to Starbucks.

The "language unique to Starbucks" (and Fivebucks overly-burnt coffee beans) resulted in this one person's boycott.

Clearly I'm the only human on the planet who doesn't fall for this image over substance garbage.

McDonald's is the most popular restaurant on the planet.
High volume merely means pandering to the lowest common denominator of society.
High fat and high sodium for low price. (hurl)

Enjoy your Fivebucks.

[varmonter]

I for one like fivebucks coffee. I usually get
just a medium ( bente grande fuente or whatever) Pike.
its around 2.50. In Vt we have green mountain roasters coffee
in just about every convenience store. So getting a decent cup is not hard.
But when i travel like right now im in wyoming, and i havent found a decent
cup yet. Starbucks like mcdonalds is consistant wherever you go.
For me starbucks is consistantly good. Mcds not so much..except their coffee.

Yes its a dred. Taylor can call it whatever they want ..its theirs.

[AndrewG]

Does it matter what Taylor call it? If Martin called their dreadnoughts 'square riggers' they would still be guitars, despite being named after types of ships. Now there's thought; call the O a 'skiff', the OO 'mine sweeper', the OOO 'destroyer', Jumbo 'cruiser'...much easier to remember. There's already a naval analogue in 'flat-top'!

[rokdog49]

Originally Posted by Tico

McDonald's is the most popular restaurant on the planet.
High volume merely means pandering to the lowest common denominator of society.
High fat and high sodium for low price. (hurl)

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C'mon man...That's a pretty biased generalization. I don't eat at McDonalds much, but I don't label those who do.
There are lots of bad food choices being made by all demographics at lots of franchised and non-franchised restaurants not named McDonalds.
I'd say that's pretty typically American.
BTW, I don't drink Starbucks but MacDonalds does have good coffee.

[Goodallboy]

Originally Posted by Tico

The "language unique to Starbucks" (and Fivebucks overly-burnt coffee beans) resulted in this one person's boycott.

Clearly I'm the only human on the planet who doesn't fall for this image over substance garbage.

McDonald's is the most popular restaurant on the planet.
High volume merely means pandering to the lowest common denominator of society.
High fat and high sodium for low price. (hurl)

Enjoy your Fivebucks.

As a home-roaster, I can assure everyone that you're correct about the "over-burnt coffee beans".

Sorry, back to the guitar-talk. I don't care what people call the guitar, I care about what the guitar says to ME! Yet to play one, so I yield the floor.

[hayvis]

The shape of dreadnoughts always reminds me of the poo emoji.

[noledog]

Originally Posted by Tico

The "language unique to Starbucks" (and Fivebucks overly-burnt coffee beans) resulted in this one person's boycott.

Clearly I'm the only human on the planet who doesn't fall for this image over substance garbage.

McDonald's is the most popular restaurant on the planet.
High volume merely means pandering to the lowest common denominator of society.
High fat and high sodium for low price. (hurl)

Enjoy your Fivebucks.

+1...right on, this human will second that motion!!

….I'm eager to demo the GP717, could care less about the name designation, the honey burst is a nice looking guitar.

[KevWind]

Originally Posted by Tico

The "language unique to Starbucks" (and Fivebucks overly-burnt coffee beans) resulted in this one person's boycott.

Clearly I'm the only human on the planet who doesn't fall for this image over substance garbage.

McDonald's is the most popular restaurant on the planet.
High volume merely means pandering to the lowest common denominator of society.
High fat and high sodium for low price. (hurl)

Enjoy your Fivebucks.

The prototypical misbelief in the level of our own uniqueness, is multilateral, wide, and deep.

[gerardo1000]

I respect Taylor guitars and particularly like their new Grand Pacific line, but cannot stand their hyper inflated marketing...

[Rumblefish]

Andy clearly says he wanted the sound of a dread that sounded like what he heard on many classic recordings. Meaning a dread after it's gone through the recording and mastering process. Post production tweaks things and he wanted a guitar that sounded tweaked out of the box. Same vintage vibe but more balanced. It's very much dread inspired but he doesn't consider it a dread in the classic sense. Listen to the Taylor podcast where Andy talks about the GP and try to understand where he's coming from. Or don't. Ignore everything and just play one and decide if it's you like it or not.

Parsing his words or taking marketing hyperbole literally isn't very constructive.