Grand Pacific is a DRED....

[$ongWriter]

Been seeing some discussions about the Taylor Grand Pacific. Folks...I don't care what Andy Powers says....IT IS A DRED...A SLOPPED SHOULDERED DRED....it's has "ALMOST" the exact footprint of my J-45...the body is just a little thinner from front to back....BUT IT IS A SLOPE SHOULDER DRED!!!!...just saying....(and also would like to add....I love mine!!!)

[rokdog49]

Andy Powers probably doesn't concern himself with your opinions or mine.
It's a Dreadnought.

[TBman]

$ongwriter you still have more room in your signature for guitars, what's holding you up?

I don't care if its a dread or not, it looks cool. I have to get my hands on one to test drive

[zmf]

Originally Posted by $ongWriter

....IT IS A DRED...A SLOPPED SHOULDERED DRED....

Does it fit snugly in a J-45 case? OK then.

[Mbroady]

Originally Posted by rokdog49

Andy Powers probably doesn't concern himself with your opinions or mine.
It's a Dreadnought.

One might say he is not dreading anyone calling it a dread

[Jaden]

I’m one of those who associate the J-45 with “jumbo” due to lower bout width of more than 16”; that dimension makes it quite distinct from the Martin dreadnought.

FWIW

[BoneNut74]

This Gibson body style from 1929 is hailed as Gibson's first "dreadnought":

https://www.vintageguitar.com/21778/...t-dreadnought/

Take a look at the wide-waisted slope shoulder 1929 Gibson and then take a long look at a Grand Pacific... Notice the family resemblance? In the same sense that the 1929 Gibson was rightfully called a dreadnought, so are the Grand Pacifics.

[TBman]

It's a dread-not.....

[Tico]

Taylor's marketing bozos forcing us to call it Grand Pacific reminds me of how Starbucks (which should be named Fivebucks) wants you to call their large size "Venti".

[jklemm18]

I am not sure where the information is coming from - yes Andy has said he does not think of it as a dread in the traditional sense but the word DREADNOUGHT is stamped right on the manufacturers sticker inside my 717. Maybe its a one off??

[Silly Moustache]

Excuse me but a J-45 isn't a dreadnought. It's a JUMBO ... the J prefix is a clue.

I explain here :

The sloped shoulder dreadnought is what some call the original (12 fret slotted headstock) design from 1931 - 1934. and I play Collings versions, like these :



p.s. I know nothing of Taylors - played a few, but AFIAK they design their own body shapes.

[Rev Roy]

Nope...can’t be. There’s a law somewhere that says all dreads must have pickguards. Very bad form for a dread to show up at a Bluegrass festival naked.

[RP]

The Grand Pacifics arrived after much fanfare but seem to have been met with a collective MEH. The main objection seems to have been that they didn't have the boominess of a Martin dread. After I got my 317 and played it a bit, I realized that it had its own old timey sound but was more articulate and focused than a typical Martin dread. And so I began to post that the GPs should be evaluated on their own strengths and not dismissed because they lacked the tone of Martin dreads, a comparison which I believe Taylor's pre-production marketing had a hand in creating. Ergo, I believe that calling a GP a dread is misleading in terms of appreciating it although factually accurate. Every other Taylor is known by its shape and family and not based on association/comparison to another brand. Call it what you wish, but I prefer to call it a Grand Pacific or GP just like the Grand Concert, Grand Auditorium, Grand Symphony and Grand Orchestra....

[jklemm18]

RP - I think part of the MEH reaction is that it has been written off by so many without even playing it. If people would take the time to go out and evaluate it on its own merits as Taylor's take on a slope shouldered dread not a carbon copy clone of a pre-existing other brand guitar - they would find as you have that it is unique and worthy of a place in the market place. The internet mob has spoken that this guitar is not worthy and to me that's sad. I am enjoying mine more every day.

[KevWind]

Since Taylor calls it a Dreadnought right on their website I don't understand the OP

Scroll down right under the video photo

https://www.taylorguitars.com/guitar...adnought/story