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I'm imagining Joan Baez thinking over the options...
"Myrtle Cain is my name and I served in the Danville Pub Till so much cavalry came and they ate all the Danville grub..." "Now I don't mind slingin' pork and beans And I don't know what "feminist" means You can eat til you're stuffed and you leave the rest But you should never... eat waffles with chicken breasts..." |
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What I'm getting from this discussion is that there may exist a sort of Platonic realm of Ideal Song-Forms defined by lyrics (whether these Forms exist prior to their "creation" by a songwriter, or if they come into being when first imagined, first performed, first written, or first recorded, is another matter and only tangentially related).
My question then becomes: when an artist changes the way he or she performs their own song, has the artist reached into the Platonic realm and changed the Ideal Song-Form, or have they rather created a new one, such that there is now, e.g., both a Form A and a Form A'? In either case, would this mean we then have the option of choosing between Forms A and A' for the purpose of a cover performance, or would it rather mean that by performing the song as originally written, when the artist no longer wishes to sing it this way, we are transgressing against the Ideal Realm--corrupting, as it were, the music of the spheres--even as the Dark Lord Morgoth tainted the song of Illúvatar with his fiendish arrogance, his vile creations? This question remaining unanswered, it would seem that if an artist is heard to vary his lyrics it would be most prudent to avoid covering that song again, for fear of trespassing against the Good. |
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I thought perhaps that was what you were alluding to, but just wanted to clarify a bit further.
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Had an acoustic guitar partner that could not ever remember the words, in the right order, to the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. He'd sing the verse about the ship sinking, and then the verse about the wind in the wires made a tattle tale sound. I told him we looked like a joke, and why didn't he write them down to glance at so he could tell the story. He said that wasn't professional. "You don't see Gordon Lightfoot on stage with a notebook." I said he'd written it, and could probably get them straight. And I'd rather the guy I was playing with get the lyrics right, and the occasional glance at a sheet of paper would be more professional than screwing up the lyrics. But I can't do Angel From Montgomery, since I'm not "an old woman, named for my mother". |
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However, I have no problem singing Angel From Montgomery as written, because it is not about being an old woman, it is observation about life. And since I have lived, I feel completely comfortable singing it.
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Lyrics Can Evolve
...with the passage of time.
I was twenty one years when I wrote this song. I'm twenty two now but I won't be for long. Time hurries on... That made sense when I first learned it at that age but now at 70 I sing Many years ago when I sang this song, The passage of time seemed to take so long. But now time hurries on, And the leaves that are green turn to brown. |
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I play Janis Joplin's "Turtle Blues" but I changed it where the I's are she's.
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Yeah, I change lyrics. When it suits. And that's not all that often.
Gordon Lightfoot changed the lyrics of If you could read my mind as the years softened his thoughts on his divorce and the blame he put on his wife. |
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I am not into walking the streets naked. And sailors puts a spin on it that's not me either. I'm not sure there are that many people that can identify with it. But that's just me.
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I would listen to that in any order you want to sing it. One of my favorites from that era.
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I am still learning Joni Mitchells' "The Last Time I saw Richard" on piano because the one minute intro is one of the greatest pieces of piano music I've ever heard. Whereas I was not involved with aforementioned "Richard" and it was a gendered song, you can bet I'm changing the lyrics, slightly. I may not get them to work for me, but once I get the piano worked out I won't care as it it such a beautiful song, like the rest of the works of Blue.
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