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Old 05-24-2018, 04:04 AM
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Default 1 13/16 nut and 2 3/16" string space playable?

I am about to buy a McIlroy and see in the specs a 1 13/16" nut width (46mm) and 2 3/16" string spacing (56mm). How playable is this for fingerstyle ect. Is it common this width?
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Sounds just about perfect to me. Just a bit more room than a standard 1 3/4 Neck. Should be a wonderful fingerstyle guitar
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A few of my older guitars have a 1 13/16" nut which I like. Personally though I find a 2 3/16" string spacing a bit skimpy. I prefer 2 5/16" string spread but have no problem with a 2 4/16." Anything under that though would be really pushing it.
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Old 05-24-2018, 06:09 AM
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I find that spacing very comfortable for fingerstyle. Wider string spacing does seem to help me play a little cleaner I think.
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That doesn't seem to be that wide of a string spacing. I usually prefer 2 1/4 or 2 5/16 for finger style. Not sure what the purpose of having a wide nut but not pair it with a wider string spacing.
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The McIlroy is custom made with these specs, i will get it end next week. The anwsers comfort me ,it is a used guitar
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That doesn't seem to be that wide of a string spacing. I usually prefer 2 1/4 or 2 5/16 for finger style. Not sure what the purpose of having a wide nut but not pair it with a wider string spacing.
Paul,
It's simple.

It's because the strings are getting 'attacked' at different angles by the different jobs required of each hand.

I've actually been doing just fine with my custom Telecaster which has a very large profile (deep, fat V) with 1 & 3/4" nut, but still has a 2 & 1/8" saddle spacing, while my Flammang has an even larger profile, 1 & 13/16" nut, but a 2 & 3/8" spacing.

Nail length, I suppose, helps to 'aim' the attack at the bridge, but you don't get that sort of help with fat fingertips on the fretting end.

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I prefer 2 5/16 as well - makes a huge difference for me. 1 13/16 or wider at the nut is required!
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Paul,
It's simple.

It's because the strings are getting 'attacked' at different angles by the different jobs required of each hand.

I've actually been doing just fine with my custom Telecaster which has a very large profile (deep, fat V) with 1 & 3/4" nut, but still has a 2 & 1/8" saddle spacing, while my Flammang has an even larger profile, 1 & 13/16" nut, but a 2 & 3/8" spacing.

Nail length, I suppose, helps to 'aim' the attack at the bridge, but you don't get that sort of help with fat fingertips on the fretting end.

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Still don't understand. If I had a wide 1 13/16 nut I would want a 2 5/16 wide string spacing to match. If I wanted a slightly less 1.75 nut width I probably would want close to a 2 1/4 string spacing or maybe a 2 3/16. It just doesn't make sense to me to have a such a wide nut but go with a relatively narrower string spacing.

And you Flammang example seems to prove my point. Both 1 13/16 and 2 3/8 are wide.
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Those numbers seem a bit odd to me. The spacing at the bridge should be at least 2 1/4.''
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"Sir, with your waistline being 36" you should definitely have a 32" inseam"......said no clothing salesman, ever.

If you don't understand why nut width and saddle string spacing really don't have a correlation, I'm not sure I can explain it to you, but a clue to follow would be that no two people are built alike, etc.

One example would be something like the Martin Paul Simon OM-42PS, which came with a 1 & 11/16" nut and 2 & 1/4" string spacing.

Ask Paul why he requested that.

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I'd prefer a wider bridge spacing of 2 5/16 with that wide of a neck.
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A few of my older guitars have a 1 13/16" nut which I like. Personally though I find a 2 3/16" string spacing a bit skimpy. I prefer 2 5/16" string spread but have no problem with a 2 4/16." Anything under that though would be really pushing it.
I fully concur. I love 1-13/16" and 2-5/16" or even 2-3/8" is ideal for my hands for fingerstyle.
I do have one guitar with 1-13/16" and 2-3/16" that I used for fingerstyle. I mean, you can play any style with any specs, it's just about how optimal or not they are. In this case it works, but I wish it were wider at the saddle.
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