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Old 01-17-2019, 12:44 PM
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Have you ever messed around with a chord progression that developed into a full song, only to wonder if you heard it somewhere before? My daughter got married this summer and i have an "original" called Oregon Wedding, but I really don't know how original it is. I can't remember whether I heard it before or it just spilled out. Not a big deal, she likes it, but i wonder how often this happens to those of you that compose original tunes.
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Old 01-17-2019, 12:55 PM
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All the time. It's inevitable that a chord progression will be similar to some other song out there. But I frequently find myself coming up with an idea that I really like, only to realize later on that it sounds similar to something I'd heard in the past.

It used to really frustrate me when I'd come to that realization, but now I try to look at it as a positive because it means that I'm writing music that has similarities to the musicians I idolize. Plus, it's not like I'm releasing my music to the public/profiting off of it.
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Old 01-17-2019, 01:03 PM
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Happens to me all of the time. Sometimes I come up with a tune and it turns out really really good. Sometimes so good that I wonder if I subconsciously stole it from something I have heard before. Although I do believe I came up with it on my own, I think the real answer is that we are all inspired or influenced by something we have heard before and I also think when you have something in your head that you create then it becomes so familiar to you to the point that you could have sworn you have heard it before. I was playing something I made up the other day for a friend. I had noticed that it reminded me of the song Nothing Else Matters by Metallica and my friend said the same thing. The funny thing is that it really is nothing like the song. Not even remotely as far as note composition. Maybe the style sounds like it or something. With the millions of songs and parts of songs it is virtually impossible to come up with something that somebody hasn't already done similar in my opinion. I don't think the stuff I come up with was copied though. If it was I never do find the song that I think I might have unknowingly stole it from.
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Old 01-17-2019, 01:10 PM
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There are only so many notes, chords, riffs, etc. It is entirely possible your song has bits and pieces of other songs.

Even the pros have stepped on other's lawns.
The Rolling Stones have how many songs that they have penned?

Yet, they gave KD Lang partial writing credit for one of their songs after realizing some similarities to one if her songs.

I think you are OK if your song is for your personal use.
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Old 01-17-2019, 01:36 PM
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That question has worried me many times, with originals.

What got me over it was when a friend asked; "do you think Howlin' Wolf thought about that when he wrote Spoonful?"

(The fact that the song was written by Willie Dixon, not Howlin' Wolf only makes it funnier.)
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Old 01-17-2019, 01:41 PM
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Is it a song with words + melody (copyrightable) or just a chord progression (not copyrightable)?

All music is borrowed to some degree, whether intentionally or not, from other music.
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:04 PM
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This song is an instrumental, I have recorded it and shared it with my daughter. I just felt funny telling her I wrote it, have a nagging feeling I heard it before but cannot place it anywhere. No copyright thing, but I'd be disappointed if I wrote a song for my daughters wedding and then heard it somewhere else I have written other things, some with lyrics, some instrumental, and I get the whole shared chords thing, but Ive never really had this nagging feeling before.

This is a iPhone recording at early stage, I play a bit brisker now. Any body recognize anything?
[SOUNDCLOUD]An Oregon Wedding.m4a/SOUNDCLOUD
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:07 PM
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I've said this before. In western music, with 12 notes and just a handful of rhythm styles, there really can be no more new melodies or progressions. But lyrics? Just considering English, there are something like 171,000 words! This is why I'm so drawn to songwriters like John Prine, Slaid Cleaves, Guy Clark, James McMurtry, Steve Forbert, et al. Sure every song John Prine writes uses the same chords and progressions. But no one can turn a phrase like him.

And this is why I can see why some people are into some rap music. When you've used up all the notes and beats, all you have left is words.
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:16 PM
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It has happened to me. The instance that comes to mind is over 30 years ago I (thought I) came up with a progression I liked.

I played it for one of my musician buddies and said "What do you think of this? You like it enough that you think I should try to make a song out of it?"

He said: "Yup. And Bob Seger was probably thinking the same thing when he used it to write 'Still The Same'."

...I slowly played through the progression again and--AAARRGHH!!
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:27 PM
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It happened to McCartney when he woke up with 'Yesterday' in his head. He went around for months asking people about it before coming to the realization that it was original.
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:29 PM
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I remember reading a number of years back that Gregg Allman said he had been working really hard on a new song, and excitedly played the beginning for his brother...

He said Duane looked at him and said "Congratulations...you've just written a new verse to an obscure Rolling Stones song..." then he proved it by playing the song...

Happens to even the best of us..
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:30 PM
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All I'm thinking is don't play it to Jimmy Page.
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Old 01-17-2019, 07:04 PM
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In one segment of the Beatles Anthology film, Ringo told the story of how he was always coming excitedly into the studio to show the band a new tune he'd written, only to have the other guys tell him what song he'd stolen from someone else. So you're in good company.
Years ago, my duo partner used to write songs like this:
He'd choose a song he really liked, and write completely new words to the melody. Then he'd take his story and write a new melody to it. It actually worked - he got 2 or 3 good songs that way. Now we just write 'em the "regular" way.
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Old 01-18-2019, 01:06 AM
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It happened tonight at my bluegrass jam. Someone called "Help is on the Way" recorded by Doyle Lawson (in 2009, written by Michael E. Reed Jr.) in the key of C. Nice tune, nice sentiment. After we finished I pointed out "You know that is almost the exact same melody and progression as 'Christmas in the Trenches' by John McCutcheon (1984)." so yes, this is very common. Who can forget "My Sweet Lord" vs "He's So Fine." If they busted George Harrison they gonna bust you too son!
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