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Old 06-05-2021, 08:08 AM
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I agree with rokdog49.
Too much (humidity) will damage a guitar more than "drying out".

When a guitar is made the moisture in the wood is the least it will ever be.
From that point on it will only gain moisture, and "drying out" very little.

Moisture will cause havoc with braces and bridge glue as well.
As written, none of these statement are true.
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Old 06-05-2021, 11:51 AM
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Just an aside. This happened to me once upon a time. I was like?????
Then I checked my tuner. I had inadvertently moved it up one sharp pitch. Duh. Probably not your problem but worth a look.
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I took it to one of the few Taylor gold level luthier shops in Canada this morning. It is a repair only place, he does not sell guitars and has a plek machine as well. He said that it only needed a good set up, the relief was different on the high E compared to the low E and some minor bridge and nut work. I'm getting the frets dressed while there.
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Just out of curiosity, and living in Ontario, who in Ontario has a PLEK machine?
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The relief SHOULD be different on the e compared to the E, about 3x greater on the E. IMO, of course. 1 to 2 thou vs 3 to 5 thou depending on player’s style.
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The relief SHOULD be different on the e compared to the E, about 3x greater on the E. IMO, of course. 1 to 2 thou vs 3 to 5 thou depending on player’s style.
HI Bruce,

I can understand how by filing the saddle, one could reduce the "action" and make the "e" lower than the "E." But I don't understand how one could make the "relief" different for these two strings.

Would you be so kind as to elaborate a bit.

Thank you sir!
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I do it by creating slightly more dish in the fingerboard on the bass side than on the treble side, before the frets go in. It can be machined into the frets themselves using a bit of "body english" in the fret dressing. 3 or 4 thou of fret height loss is not a terminal problem. It can theoretically be done in the programing of a CNC mill such as the Plek Machine, but I don't know if it actually can be done.

You may have noticed people commenting about how "playable" my guitars are. This is just one of several things I do that are not all that common, the goal being for the physical guitar to be as transparent to the player as possible. The guitar is the means to the end, an efficient tool for making music, ideally. And beautiful, of course.

Sometimes more relief on the e than the E does happen, even to my stuff. It is a good reason to redress the wood and refret. It's not that hard. I did such to one of my older guitars just a couple of months ago. Warranty work from my POV.
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Thank you Bruce!
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The relief SHOULD be different on the e compared to the E, about 3x greater on the E. IMO, of course. 1 to 2 thou vs 3 to 5 thou depending on player’s style.
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HI Bruce,

I can understand how by filing the saddle, one could reduce the "action" and make the "e" lower than the "E." But I don't understand how one could make the "relief" different for these two strings.

Would you be so kind as to elaborate a bit.

Thank you sir!
I don't know that I have ever seen the 1st string and 6th string referred to as "e" and "E" and from the conversation I'm not sure which is which.

Is the 1st string (plain string) e or E?
Is the 6th string (wound string) e or E?
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" ...reduce the "action" and make the "e" lower than the "E."

"E" is the big/thick/wound string, #6
"e" is the little/thin/plain string, #1

The vibrating e occupies less space than the vibrating E, so the action [distance from bottom of string to the frets] can be lower for the e.
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Weston Instruments in the Ottawa suburb of Kanata has a plek machine. http://ottawaguitarrepair.com/

He is one of 4 gold Taylor repair shops in Canada, 2 of them are here in Ottawa (the other being Lauzons.) I got back my 914 and it sounds great. Minor tweak on the truss rod, some nut work, some saddle work, a fret dressing, slight neck/body adjustment and plek'd.

I left my Martin D41 for the same treatment.
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Weston Instruments in the Ottawa suburb of Kanata has a plek machine. http://ottawaguitarrepair.com/
Thanks for the info.
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FWIW the Plek website shows Cosmo Music in Toronto as having one as well....
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