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Just when I thought that modes came out of major key.
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Haha! It’s a Phish thing, I assumed we were all as familiar with Trey Anastasio as we were with Gregorian chants. |
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Heck yes. My jogging playlist is half and half.
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Yes, that's like saying a parent comes out of its child.
The "major scale" is just one kind of mode, and a fairly young one in historical terms. Still, you can - obviously - derive modes from the major scale. Western music has been based on the major scale for a few centuries now, so we may as well treat it as the foundation of everything. The trick is to take the modes out of the major scale: emancipate them, free them from their major scale chains! D dorian (and the others) are not "in the major key" - they are outside, free to be their own thing!
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Well, I am. I know almost nothing about either!
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I that that was frat party back in the old days
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Interesting, thanks. Do you have a good link for that?
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Fascinating discussion... thanks, guys. I love Dorian. It's my favorite mode to noodle in.
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Obviously it's way too easy to say that first there was dorian, phrygian, lydian and mixolydian, and then (officially from 1547) ionian and aeolian arrived and eventually took over and became "keys". Naturally it was a whole lot messier, with a whole lot more overlap.
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Re-reading my post I realize I should clarify that by "post-classical" I am referring to the ancient Mediterranean world and not the "classical" era in Western music. Aeolian certainly was the minor generally employed by Haydn and Mozart!
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Is this here where I’m supposed to plead the fifth? (Pun definitely intended) [emoji23] |
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I always referred to them as E Phrygian, D Dorian and A Aeolian
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nah. I always think of modes as "flavours" or "moods"
Ionian- Majestic, Superhero-like or just plain happy Dorian-sexy sad Phrygian- Exotic, dark Lydian- spaced out, cosmic, kind of creepy at times Mixolydian-Funky happy (like ghostbusters) Aeolian-Sad tragic Locrian- tension For every key theres a mode and they always go in this order Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian, Locrian Phyrigian, Dorian and Aeloian are minor. The rest are major. Locrian is diminished |