New Amp From TC Helicon

[Marty C]

Anyone seen this yet? Can’t seem to find any videos of how it sounds. https://www.tc-helicon.com/product.html?modelCode=P0DBA

[bsman]

Ooh - that looks sweet! "Designed and engineered in Canada" I assumed means "assembled in ______stan/esia"? Under 30 lbs, too. As someone who works mostly solo, I'd be interested!

[Captain Jim]

This will be an interesting one to watch. I have been using TC Helicon pedals (Gxt and Play Acoustic) for years. The one downside of that is the number of cords necessary between yourself and the amp/PA.

No videos or price that I could find.

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OK, I found this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcB1i93O1P4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVE1qOn5xe4

[ceciltguitar]

The second video link posted by Captain Jim details features of this amp that appear intriguing and interesting. It seems that this device aims to replace all external effects while enabling on-the-fly mid-performance selections of effects, enabling a singer / guitarist to carry one unit (ok, 2 units since there is a foots that goes with the amp) and just plug and play.

30 lbs is at the upper end of the spectrum of what I want to carry, but the ability to plug and play and eliminate all other devices looks to be a big plus.

[Cuki79]

I guess BOSS acoustic singer live and pro amp are stealing too many market shares.

Think about it: a young kid wanting to start Singing and playing alone in his/her bedroom would mostly buy a BOSS amp before. It was the only all-in one solution since the soloFX150 never really broke into shops widely (I don’t if my English is good).

[SpruceTop]

The V100 looks like something I'd buy without much thought. I wonder if the phantom power is a full 48 volts?

Also, the -10 dB low frequency response is likely in error from actual measured values:
Overall frequency response 80 Hz - 20 kHz (+/- 3 dB) 46 Hz - 24 kHz (- 10 dB) I'd figure given from what I've seen from other amps amd speaker systems, the low frequency at -10 dB would more likely be 70 Hz or so.

[necrome]

Seems pretty heavy (for me) and no battery power

[Cuki79]

Originally Posted by SpruceTop

The V100 looks like something I'd buy without much thought. I wonder if the phantom power is a full 48 volts?

Also, the -10 dB low frequency response is likely in error from actual measured values:
Overall frequency response 80 Hz - 20 kHz (+/- 3 dB) 46 Hz - 24 kHz (- 10 dB) I'd figure given from what I've seen from other amps amd speaker systems, the low frequency at -10 bB would more likely be 70 Hz or so.

Don’t forget it is a 10 inch speaker in a 29.3 lbs speaker. It is possible.

[SpruceTop]

Originally Posted by Cuki79

Don’t forget it is a 10 inch speaker in a 29.3 lbs speaker. It is possible.

Cuki, if the -10 dB specs as listed are correct for frequency response, this would be the ultimate amp and all a player would likely need in a small venue or when patching into a FOH system and will be the number one seller in a short period of time.

[necrome]

The top firing tweeter is surprisingly the most attractive feature for me. Oh there is a smaller V60 but sadly also not battery powered and not much lighter

It's so close to being the perfect product for me, but I have to play at too many venues without a power supply. Such an oversight

On a sidenote, if I were to get a portable power station to run this eventually, can I please ask for help from someone with proper electrical literacy because I'm having a lot of trouble understanding how Watts, Volts, Amps etc work.



https://www.tc-helicon.com/de/produc...odelCode=P0DB9

[Cuki79]

Originally Posted by SpruceTop

Cuki, if the -10 dB specs as listed are correct for frequency response, this would be the ultimate amp and all a player would likely need in a small venue or when patching into a FOH system and will it will be the number one seller in a short period of time.

The Schertler Roy goes down to 40 Hz.

I don't think it is a striking feature. For me, the key is to now how free TC-Helicon was to produce a product out of the Music-Group influence

A TC-Helicon paired with a modded Bugera/Behringer ACX Ultracoustic amp is less appealing than with a Fishman, Schertler or Genzler amp.

I guess they are made in the same Chinese factory and use at least common parts.

PS: For example, Schertler uses italian made loudspeaker. TC-Helicon uses Tannoy-Music Group chinese made speakers. Do you honestly think they will sound the same?

my 2 cents,
Cuki

[SpruceTop]

Originally Posted by Cuki79

The Schertler Roy goes down to 40 Hz.

I don't think it is a striking feature. For me, the key is to now how free TC-Helicon was to produce a product out of the Music-Group influence

A TC-Helicon paired with a modded Bugera/Behringer ACX Ultracoustic amp is less appealing than with a Fishman, Schertler or Genzler amp.

I guess they are made in the same Chinese factory and use at least common parts.

my 2 cents,
Cuki

My concern about the listed specs is the great disparity between the -3 dB spec at 80 Hz compared to the -10 dB spec at 46 Hz. When comparing the listed specs of most products, I've never seen this large a frequency-range difference in the flat to usable bass response from -3 dB to -10 dB.

[dnf777]

Sure looks sweet on paper! Cant find it anywhere though. Ive noticed many, if not most desirable new products are “arriving soon”.

[dnf777]

Originally Posted by SpruceTop

My concern about the listed specs is the great disparity between the -3 dB spec at 80 Hz compared to the -10 dB spec at 46 Hz. When comparing the listed specs of most products, I've never seen this large a frequency-range difference in the flat to usable bass response from -3 dB to -10 dB.

Isnt that essentially a low-cut or high-pass filter? Could that be engineered into the circuitry, rather than the speakers natural response?

[AeroUSA]

I don’t see the point in this. The auto anti feedback is nice but I feel that a JBL and a ‘play acoustic’ would be a much better purchase.