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Old 08-04-2020, 03:11 PM
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Titebond Original or hot hide glue. Scrape the surface immediately before gluing. Resist the urge to wipe with acetone....a method that has been in the folklore for gluing oily woods. It may actually draw the oil to the surface.
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Old 08-06-2020, 10:41 AM
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Titebond Original or hot hide glue. Scrape the surface immediately before gluing. Resist the urge to wipe with acetone....a method that has been in the folklore for gluing oily woods. It may actually draw the oil to the surface.
Great, that would have been my next question!!!!

Thank you all.....will post progress pics soon.
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Old 08-06-2020, 01:28 PM
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That is another ouch one, love to see finish job

Steve
Keep in mind that the client didn't want a flawless job but rather to have it 'reliced' which history has done naturally to this guitar. I do wonder if someone with your skill could actually fully hide something like that. I would not have taken the job on if that was the requirement. But at some point or several points in the life of this guitar there were some really terrible repairs done so it was challenging but honestly I'm shocked at how well this little guitar sounds.

I'll have to take a pic of the back too, it's part of the reason why the client wanted this guitar to come back to life.



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Old 08-06-2020, 05:08 PM
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That was a hard one to fix up, thanks for the follow up photo.

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Old 08-07-2020, 09:37 PM
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I do wonder if someone with your skill could actually fully hide something like that.
Kind words. You had an extremely difficult one to start with. The top looks flatand solid, that is no easy feat to achieve on a repair that extensive

The finish you applied I would not have changed, i think you got the colour tones spot on.

The only difference is the wood used for the graft, I would have tried to match the top, if that required me to split some spruce on the grain lines and stitch them back together to match the existing lines then thats the path I would have gone, to make it truly invisible i would have unpicked forward to the rosette and grafted from the rosette backwards.

But... again I think you did a good repair from supplied photos given what you started with

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Old 08-19-2020, 01:19 PM
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Shim worked out great and plays well....will need to make a better saddle to finish off.

It's just about undetectable after lacquer finish was touched up.

Thank you all for your help! I really appreciate it.

Best to you all!
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Old 08-22-2020, 11:06 PM
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That is a very signifcant sized wedge, i would recheck my braces and other internal structures for damage.

The fitted shim you have has actually lifted the neck out of the socket, typically you need only the back half of the extension area shimmed not the whole extension.

When I calculate a tapered shim for fitment I use brass strips, i have never really needed a tapered shim greater than 40 thou

Attached photo of a hummingbird getting its neck reset finished

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Old 08-23-2020, 08:08 AM
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sorry that's just the rough fitted shim not trimmed or glued and not representative of finished product. I thinned it down quite a bit.

It had a dip from the day i built it over 20 years ago and hadn't changed at all. It just bugged me enough to fix it recently.
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Old 08-24-2020, 06:27 AM
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Can you show us a finished pic? It's a beautiful guitar.
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Old 09-09-2020, 12:19 PM
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sorry it took me so long to reply.

This was my second attempt at building. It's not perfect but it is a beautiful sounding guitar (which is really all that matters). Better than any other I've had.




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Old 09-09-2020, 01:42 PM
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That's a very ambitious second built there Supersport. Nice job.

To my eye in that last pick it looks like the upper bout has a rise from the soundhole to the neck joint which it the opposite of what you want. Or there is some sinking in around the soundhole. After 20 years that sure is a possibility. If you build again though do some research on body geometry as it pertains to neck angle geometry. Lots of ways do get it right.
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Old 09-09-2020, 03:02 PM
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Can't see pics.
Nor can I.
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Old 09-09-2020, 04:03 PM
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