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So, just let me grab some pop corn
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Popcorn ready yet?
Even in my neck of the woods in a normally mild climate, the recent lengthy period of freezing weather outside and dry indoor conditions has resulted in many sunken tops on Martin Standard series guitars at my local retailers. In one store they had their humidifier working but the reading on the machine indicated 29%. Really? Considering the high production numbers and possibly high consumption of relatively green wood being used, these guitars need to be pumped up like balloons with 50% humidity or else it will be neck reset city for many of them, including shrinking bodies and separating binding. |
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One of my friends bought a new Martin John Renbourn model that was unplayable when he brought it home. A friend of his pulled the strings and added a REALLY tall saddle.
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I've owned dovetail Martins for 20 years. Never had a single issue. I've owned dovetail Gibsons for over 20 years. Never had an issue with them either.
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My 1996 412 has a bolt on neck but the finger board is still glued to the top.
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My thoughts exactly! I'll be checking back in on this thread...over the next few weeks....
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In my experience most people with a bias towards bolt on necks are in an older demographic or simply have not played a high end hand built guitar with a Bolt on neck.
Bolt on necks were associated with cheap guitars but that just isn't the case anymore. There are some boutique builders that have mastered the art... Bolt on necks (if done right) are fantastic and aren't going to kill tone and volume. I have a scalloped braced, full hide glue, adi/hog Martin dread and it sounds like a church mouse next to a certain boutique dread I picked up last month. Furthermore the boutique dread has a sitka top, modern adhesive, and 12's. o.O |
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It probably matters little to the real musicians, its the "3 chords and a Martin" group that you have to watch,
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Seems to me that they could test the waters with a single model, and see what kind of feedback they get.
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My sentiments as well ... no downside as far as I can see ...
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The Baby Taylor and Big Baby have a variation where the neck bolts on as normal and the fret board extension is held down with screws visible on the upper frets. NT developed out of that configuration. |
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You listen to people on this forum who fetishize it and would view any deviation as an abrogation of Matin’s soul. It’s not clear to me that they would actually know the difference if tested, but the recieved wisdom is that the way they did it in the old country is right. Martin is boxed in by its heritage.
I say this as one who loves vintage Martins and loves a bunch of modern bolt on necks. I can’t say categorically that bolt or glue makes a better neck joint. But it seems that for so long as Martin is competing with its past, innovation would be anathema and they’ve got mouths to feed. |
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Well speaking for myself, if I was looking at say a dreadnought in the $4k range, and there was a Martin, and a similar guitar from another company but with a bolt on neck, i'd take the one with the bolt on neck every time. The fact is that neck resets are expensive, and you're without your guitar for a period of time. Not to mention that it's a gradual performance loss as the neck gets worse and worse until the point in time when you take it in. But all of that can be avoided with a bolt on neck.
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Have you considered Customer Service. Martin’s warranties (like every other Mfg.) only covers the original purchaser. Bolt on necks cost less than $100 to reset and can be done while you wait. A glue in neck costs about $450 and you will be without your guitar for quite some time.
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