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Removing Light Dents from a Guitar Top
Can anyone provide detailed info on removing light dents from a finished guitar top?
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Steam the dent, I can give you a link if you want where I have done one.
Steve
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I'd love to see a link as well - the top of my build is a little dented from handling throughout the build process and could use touching up.
I assume it's just a wet cloth and an iron? |
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Steaming out dents on an unfinished top with a wet cloth and an soldering iron definitely works as long as the wood fibers aren't cut.
Steve - Just to confirm, dents can be steamed out even on a finished top? Do you know if it would work on a water borne finish? |
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It’s tricky, totally comes down to the type of finish, example I have tried to steam a dent on a taylor top knowing it was uv cured finish and it barely did anything, so remove finish, steam, perfect,refinish.
On a a Maton I recently did, which were finished in nitro and no problems, just my rag sticks to the surface every now and then, so follow up buff and polish Steve
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Removing Light Dents from a Guitar Top
Would the steam method work on a newer D18e without removing the finish?
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At completion the area I had been working on, had imprints of the cloth into the surface. It had to be wet sanded and buffed to remove these marks. Steve
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I've used a hair dryer with some success. Wet the dent, and allow the water to soak in a bit. Use the hair dryer to heat the area. When the water dries up, wet it again, while the wood is still hot, and dry it off with the drier. Sometimes it helps to repeat several times. A cardboard mask can help restrict the heat to a small area.
The two main questions with dents are: 1) as Shuksan has said, are the fibers broken, and 2) how fresh is it? Wood 'gets used' to being dented the longer you leave it, so the sooner you catch a dent and get some water on it, the better the result is likely to be. Often just water will do it. If the fibers are broken you're not likely to get a good result no matter what. Finish is a complication. Some finishes, such as shellac, will bubble up if they get hot, or discolor. The hair drier at least allows you to keep an eye on things and stop before they get too bad. Finishes are supposed to be water resistant; that's their job. A thin film of varnish or shellac will often conform so well to a dent that the water can't get in. You may need to prick the finish with a needle to get water to the wood. This, of course, makes other problems. |
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Even after dent steaming, its not unusual to have to do some sanding and filling in with paint.
Classic Example I finished this Maton this morning, you can see, even after steaming the dent out, I had to do a lot of drip filling to build the area back up and then a final spray, a slight UV difference is still happening, which will be visible for a month or two. Steve
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dent removal
I just acquired a Yamaha FG512 with an open peghead.
There is an ugly dent on top IŽll have to flatten - if possible. Would water and heating with a soldering iron do the job?
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You could try, nothing really to loose, i personally do not think steam will penetrate a yamaha finish, however the process does introduce enough heat to allow the fibres to relax, so you may get some improvement
Steve
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a guess
I'm guessing that the sharp edges of the dents suggest that a broken surface at those edges will allow moisture to enter the dent and the soldering iron will steam the dents. Maybe.
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Thanks for your support!
IŽll give it a try.
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Thanks! Martin D28 (1973) 12-string cutaway ...finished ;-) Hoyer 12-string (1965) Yamaha FG-340 (1970) Yamaha FG-512 (ca. 1980) D.Maurer 8-string baritone (2013-2014) and 4 electric axes |