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2 annoying experiences in one day
Hi all. I hope you’re well. Just a bit of a rant.
I went to my local shop who has a pretty good selection of acoustics. They had a Recording King from 2011 that really spoke to me. However, new in 2011 it was $289. They were asking $395 for it. I sent them a link to a review mentioning the street price and said with all due respect I think the pricing was off. It was in good shape, but definitely not new. They said the best they’d do on the price was $295 with tax included(which works out to $277 before tax). It’s really irritating because I really liked the guitar, and while $295 isn’t that much money for a guitar that you really like, I just can’t reconcile basically paying new guitar money for a used piece. The plight of the cheapskate I suppose. Also, I bought a used Tele at GC. I spoke with the guy on the floor(the GC wasn’t local to me). The guy was, as countless AGFers have said, condescending, and aside from talking to his manager about price, really unhelpful. I ended up buying it anyway because the price was good and the color was cool. Plus, if I don’t like it, I should be able to flip it without much, if any, money lost. Anyway, just another example of GC being GC. Ok, rant over.
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What something cost originally has nothing to do with anything. Replacement cost is the point. If the shop owner turned around and used AGF logic on you by saying "Hey, it's already broken in and it speaks to you, and you don't have to worry about 'first scratches', etc!", what would you say then? Small shops have a right to make a reasonable profit so that they can stay in business. Regards, Howard Emerson
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I don't like dealing with Guitar Center. It is the last place on the list of places I'll do business with.
re: the Recording King, not sure I agree with that pricing strategy either. If that guitar was yours, and YOU were looking to trade it, they would offer you dirt for it. You were right to walk. |
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I wish my days were that bad.
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At what point, then, is it ok for a guitar to sell for more than it originally cost?
Markets change, demand changes, the economy is very different today than it was in 2011. Pre-war Martins did not start out costing four, or five, or even six figures. Not that that Recording King is a classic model or anything, but guitars often appreciate over time, it happens, and shops will charge what the market will bear. And, they were willing to knock off $100, more than 25%, just because you asked... sounds like they were being pretty flexible.
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Have a look on eBay at the used prices and see if it's more or less in line. If there's loads of them at $150 you were right to walk out. If they're all $250-$350 then time to walk back in
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Great because I was shooting for silliness. I was commenting on the OP's logic that old things should not appreciate as the cost of similar items appreciate in cost. A number of years ago Musicians Friend carried Silver Creek guitars that some of us were able to snag for as little as 100 bucks with a nice hardshell case. I saw one advertised recently in the AGF Classified section for quite a bit more. Worth and value are a function of what someone is willing to pay, not necessarily what they cost when new...
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Your example's silly, because guitars don't inherently lose use value through wear and obsolescence.
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Best logic so far^^^.
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Fair point. In truth, I do indeed have much bigger fish to fry in life. However, just needed to rant to other guitar nerds.
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Didn't mean for it to sound snarky - just perspective. I'm going through some of the darkest days of my adult life right now.
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The only one I’ve seen on eBay or reverb sold for $230. If they offered that price, I’d pay it.
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Didn’t take it as snark. This is a good place to be in dark times. Music and a lot of prayer got me through my son’s passing 5 years ago. Just have a good outlet. Hoping or calmer waters for you on the horizon.
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